The Rambling Gypsy
Welcome to The Rambling Gypsy Podcast, where Tiffany Foy and friends invite you to join them on their porch for a candid conversation about the quirks and adventures that make up their lives. From Tiffany's eclectic collection of animals to the chaos and joys of raising boys, there's nothing held back as they share their unfiltered perspectives.
With a refreshing honesty and a refusal to sugarcoat anything, this podcast delves into the various oddities and peculiarities that come in life's way. From hilarious anecdotes to thought-provoking discussions, they explore the everyday moments that shape their experiences.
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The Rambling Gypsy
Whiskey Wiggles and Goat Diapers
Ever wonder what happens when the glamour of rising fame meets the harsh realities of an industry in flux? Pull up a chair and join us for this unfiltered conversation with Texas country star Rich O'Toole at the recording studio.
Rich takes us through his remarkable journey from college freshman teaching himself guitar to touring sensation playing 300+ shows annually. He reveals how early success at 23 came with unexpected challenges—from developing stage presence to managing public scrutiny and navigating personal relationships. "The sacrifice you make mentally to be in the music industry is extremely tough," he shares, offering a glimpse behind the curtain of the touring lifestyle.
What truly distinguishes this conversation is Rich's honest assessment of how streaming has transformed musicians' livelihoods. Despite his audience growing over the past decade, he's making less money than before. "The music industry has turned into all-you-can-eat for $9.99," he explains, helping listeners understand why ticket prices have increased as artists adapt to new economic realities. His perspective illuminates the stark contrast between established musicians who paid their dues over years versus today's TikTok sensations who achieve fame without developing crucial performance skills.
Want to support your favorite musicians in meaningful ways? Listen in as Rich explains how showing up to concerts, buying merchandise, and understanding the value of their art makes all the difference. This episode isn't just for music fans—it's for anyone curious about how creative professionals navigate a world where their passion and livelihood intersect in increasingly complex ways.
The Rambling Gypsy podcast is a behind-the-scenes look at the lives of real Texans doing real sh*t. We're pulling back the curtains on our daily lives - and you're invited to laugh and learn along with us.
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Speaker 2:Hey everybody, I'm Tiffany Foy. Welcome to the Ramblin' Gypsy podcast, and we are out on location today. We are not in the porch, we are not in the she shed, we are with Rich O'Toole and we are actually at a studio in Holotis, texas.
Speaker 3:Yep Stone Creek Sound.
Speaker 2:Stone Creek Sound and been to a few studios before and, ironically enough, this one is really really cool because it goes down a long dirt road. You think that you're lost, you think? That you're gonna exactly what I was just about to say, and nick is like, oh my god, it says 300 feet. And I was like, no, look, it's kind of like a yellow dog feel, where you just got to keep on going and keep on going and eventually a musician's gonna pop out of the trees.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like a fucking leprechaun and be like you're here.
Speaker 2:Hello, yeah, exactly Exactly.
Speaker 3:No, I think it's great, but it's hard to get to.
Speaker 2:I do too Because you feel more safe.
Speaker 3:I don't feel weird leaving nice equipment here, because I'm like you've got to really plan it out, to roll this place no, don't jinx it, but it's yeah At first you're like there's no way there's a studio here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's no way, that's exactly where she was and if I hadn't been to a couple of this. I would have been like you're exactly right.
Speaker 3:I think you'd call me and be like are you sure I'm here, because everyone does?
Speaker 2:Yeah, keep going yeah, keep going, keep going. Yeah, you're going to pass that old boat and then you're going to pass it the 60s. There's so many stories of that boat too there's. I can imagine there's about 4, 5, 6, 12 boats in that one. Pasture there and cars.
Speaker 3:They tried to get rid of it and the kids that own that. I don't even know the story, but they drove it to the highway and all the wheels fell off. So they were just dragging a trailer boat and it stopped in the middle of the highway. They brought it back, okay, like a trailer boat and they, like, stopped in the middle of the highway.
Speaker 2:They brought it back. So that's why it's like Okay, I mean, where else are you going to take it? At that point it's a cool prop.
Speaker 3:They should just put in the front yard here and let people sit on it. It would make a nice decor. I mean, you feel better drinking on a boat.
Speaker 2:So why not just be in a boat?
Speaker 3:Just be in a boat, yeah yeah, with a good water hose and a nice sprinkle, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what are you doing in the studio?
Speaker 3:We're doing a track right now. I'm doing a bunch of cover songs with my friends, so it's going to be like Rich O'Toole and Friends, and this is the first one. We're covering Tumbling Dice by the Rolling Stones, yeah. And so we've got Ray Wiley Hubbard's come to sing on it and he's been kind of an idol of mine and, somewhat recently, a good friend, and so we've just been. I asked him and he said yeah, so we're gonna do like all my friends in the music biz. We're gonna try to do like 10 tracks and have each person like pick us on the link. Nice, so from Rolling Stones to you know, baby's got her blue jeans on all kinds of cool songs that it just like yeah.
Speaker 3:So people like that stuff? I mean I'm sure they get tired of my own original music, Not necessarily.
Speaker 2:I don't think I know, but still I don't think yeah. I was trying to when we were talking a week or so ago. I was trying to think way back when the first time I saw you. Yeah, you, yeah oh my gosh, it forever and a long freaking time ago born and raised unborn and raised in new braunfels and watching you guys travel through and grow and and go to where you're at. And now you've got ray wiley hubbard coming on your cd and holy shit it's just been such like ups and downs.
Speaker 3:I feel like when the band started we like boom, boom, it got really famous and then it was just like because it was just, I was so young when all that happened I was 22, 23 and now I'm 41. That is like didn't know how to handle fame from the touring to right relationships, like you have to kind of learn it. And the music business is just. I wouldn't, as I saw robert o'keen play the austin rodeo two weeks ago and he said on stage he goes.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't wish the music business on my worst enemy and I'm the same way. If I had a child I'd be like, don't get into it Right. But I chose to do it and it's torturous at times, but it's also really fulfilling as an artist.
Speaker 2:That's one of the things that as many musicians that I've talked to and visited with that I've known for a very long time. Um, one of the first questions that I would like to know and I know that your audience would like to know, and anybody that doesn't know you is what was your inspiring factor for ritual tool? What made you decide that you know what?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Music is where I want to be. Was it in your family?
Speaker 3:No, it wasn't at all.
Speaker 2:It's so crazy how there's somebody I have met and they're like, well, yeah, was it? No, it wasn't at all. It's so crazy how there's somebody I have met and they're like, well, yeah, my great grandmother, she would bing-ling on piano every once in a while I wish, I wish, I'm not one of those who teach me organ or something.
Speaker 3:I think it was a thing where I was a weird kid growing up but I marched to a different beat a little bit. I was always getting kicked out of class in elementary and middle school for humming or singing and I was making up my own songs all the time, Like when.
Speaker 3:I played baseball on the bus. I would make fun of people or I'd bring my guitar and I would do it, and I didn't know I was a songwriter until I was a songwriter. And so I went to college my freshman year I was just kind of lonely and I started learning every Robert Earl, keane and Cross Skating Ragweed songs. I thought those guys were like it Because I didn't really know Growing up early on I thought what was on the radio was country music, right.
Speaker 3:And then finding you know Keene and Wild Love and Cross, king of Ragweed, and you know Mike McClure and guys like that, they were like wait, there's a genre of music that's not like mainstream, right, and they were actually like selling out venues. So here I am, like 17, going to college, turning 18 first semester and just learning every keen song I can possibly learn. And then I started writing my own own music and I was winning kind of songwriting contests around town and I was putting songs together and, um, and I've been met producers that are like these are good songs. I'm like really, I just first chorus, first chorus, bridge chorus out, and I would just make up songs and they were, they were decent, yeah, and we got lucky. We had our first song like go number I think three on the chart when I was like 23, so I didn't really have to go into a real job. I was not from a family with money, so I there's a lot of in this scene.
Speaker 1:there's a lot of in this scene there's a lot of rumors.
Speaker 3:I'm from like a trust fund. No, I was raised lower middle class. I was raised lower middle class. My mom barely helped me pay for college and that was it. And I had to struggle like anybody else and so I was forced into. When we had a song go number three on the radio, I was kind of forced into putting a band together and touring full time and then there wasn't a lot of bands. You remember back in the day when, like Randy and Wade and um Ragweed and Keen, there was maybe like 16 bands. Now there's 14,000. So back in the day, like you could really play Jason Boland style.
Speaker 2:Monday.
Speaker 3:Tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday. Do laundry on Sunday, monday too. So I think my first five years I probably played 315 shows a year for a five.
Speaker 2:I just lived inside of a van touring and learned how to make ramen noodles in a truck. So it sounds like to me this all happened so quick, so fast. You were writing a couple songs. You ran into who?
Speaker 3:I ran into the guys that were running KB Talent, who's Bruce Kalmick and Ricky Brown at the time, and Bruce Kalmick has gone on to now manage Whiskey Myers the biggest fans in the scene.
Speaker 3:He's a genius and those guys kind of took me under the wing and then started managing that stuff. And I think for me I got burned out probably after like six or seven years, and that's where I was like doing this a lot, because I was like I've been doing this for so long, right, but I'm still so young, so what do I do? And so I'm lucky I never quit. You know, there's probably years where I probably only did 40, 50 shows, which seems like a lot, but in our genre that's like nothing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's me playing every Friday, saturday night.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:So yeah, it's just, our eighth album came out this year called Ghost, and we're working on another record and we're working on this cover record and the band's still playing. So I'm very fortunate that I still get to do it, but just navigating around a lot of it, like we talked about in the scene you have to be okay with your name being mentioned, sometimes in not a nice way, or having to miss people's funerals and weddings. The sacrifice you make mentally to be in the music industry is extremely tough.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yeah, I um visited. We were just talking a few minutes ago. I visited with Creed Fisher, very, very, very good friend of mine and, um, he was in a horrible motorcycle accident. Yes, and I was too long, long time ago. So we have a whole lot in common, but we've been friends for a very long time and that was one of those things and I said you know how you've got a sold out arena show.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he's really blown up. I'm so proud of him.
Speaker 2:Yes, me too.
Speaker 3:Cause he is. I remember I found a photo of him in the audience one of my shows, wearing my shirt yeah and I should have. We always say like I should have befriended him when he was nobody, but now he's like huge, it's like you go feel bad, be like, hey, greed right, let's fight again. It's like sorry, I didn't pay attention when you're doing. Remember me, but now you're way bigger than I am, so it's just so crazy to watch how the music circle works. It really is, I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 2:I remember but was going back with the whole Creed deal was how, how did the crowd accept you not being at that show? I mean you have a sold out. What happens? Yeah, and he was like they were so sincere, so forgiving, so gracious, which goes to like you're saying. It's one of those things. You cannot just all of a sudden you have a cough one day and-.
Speaker 3:No, the show must go on.
Speaker 2:The show must go on. I own multiple businesses and I'm thinking for all you little fuckers that can't show up because you stubbed your toe and what have you? Yeah, can you imagine?
Speaker 3:Even when my voice would go out. I would just make the bass player try to sound like me, because the show had to go on. Right Now I'm seeing because I call it the post-COVID renaissance, after COVID made it so easy to cancel that people got kind of like not addicted, but they got used to Accustomed, to Accustomed, that's right To canceling and it's like there's no canceling. I broke my neck in 2017. You know, if you see the scar, yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the back of an Uber. It was terrible. On the way to a radio station and literally three weeks later I was back on the stage with a neck brace and the doctor's like you're gone a little soon. I was like we have shows booked. I got to pay rent. I just bought a house. Mortgage is due. I got to get out there. So I did like 30 shows in a neck brace and it was embarrassing. I still see it. I hate seeing the photos of like fans of me.
Speaker 2:But that's not embarrassing. I had a knee replacement. I have had a hip replacement. I was at the Houston rodeo two weeks after my hip replacement. I walked into the office of my surgeon and he knows me very well. He talked to me and he said do you think that you're first? His question was where's your apparatus?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking an animal you know my emotional support four-legged friend. And he said you don't have a walker, you don't have. Where's your crutches, your cane? And I was like no, I'm not doing, no. And he said you don't have a walker, where's your crutches, your cane? And I was like no, I'm not doing it. No. And he said okay, go ahead. You think that your knee surgery is bad? He said wait until you're walking around and you pull that hip socket out and hold it in your hand.
Speaker 2:And I was like okay, fine, fine, I'll get a cane.
Speaker 2:I got a cane and I blinged it all out. Oh, you're a pimp. Yeah, there you go and then get dropped off at the Houston Livestock Show and there's only one place that they can drop you off. And I have to walk 487 miles and then where the seats were were all the way to the bottom and all I wanted to do was sit on the thing and just roll. But there's that break, you know where. You've got a little aisle break and I wanted to.
Speaker 2:All I wanted to do was sit on the thing and just roll, but there's that break, you know where you've got, I got a little aisle break and I'm like, oh, I'm afraid the way I get from one to the next, to the next, no, I hobbled all the way down there and then, when I had to pee, I just thought maybe I could just pee myself and then maybe just wallow back up and whatever. Because there's no getting all the way up there and coming all the way back down. It ain't going to happen.
Speaker 1:You should have worn some of the pins.
Speaker 3:You could have worn some of the pins or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've shared a video of me wearing Nick's face. She's like please don't tell the world that you peed in a diaper when we were driving to Dallas. Well, yeah, I did. I mean I'm not going to pull over, I was in my big rig and I mean you went around in buses or whatever Dudes get to pee in.
Speaker 3:Gatorade bottles. It's hard for y'all. Well, that's why you need to.
Speaker 2:I did, okay. Well, the goat diaper wears Huggies size 7. It was just fine.
Speaker 3:My next song is called she Did Pee in a Goat Diaper.
Speaker 2:Thank you, so that's a big deal Thank you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, see, I already had that written before we met fuck around.
Speaker 2:I don't know, one of my hats said something, but anyways, he's got this whole song written.
Speaker 3:I love Tom.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God Hot mess, he's a genius. They are the absolute best. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, anyways, we went from the anyways peeing in a diaper to yeah, the hip, the hip replacement, yeah, I just never that's for better or worse, I'm just not a quitter Same. So that's the thing to me is like I tried to I mean to dive into a little bit of my past, like I've tried to go sober twice. I don't really have trouble with drinking, I just love it so much. Right, and a lot of times like I'm sober now because I give it up for Lent. But I try to work on it because I'm not like a thing where I'm like you know it didn't work for me. It's like, well, I think it can. You really do love red wine when you're cooked Rich. So let's figure out how to make it work. That's not the best advice. I don't advocate that for people that Same.
Speaker 3:But I'm a wino, but it's like man I, so I never quit. I think that I've had that trouble in relationships because I've kept relationships going longer than they should in my love life, because I'm not a quitter, and that can be bad too.
Speaker 2:We have a lot in common.
Speaker 3:Yeah. We have a lot in common, that's tough yeah Cooking and red wine and holding on to shit.
Speaker 2:We shouldn't hold on to Yep. That's song number two on the next album you don't Cooking, and red wine and holding on to shit we shouldn't hold on to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's lessons. That's song number two on the next album, by the way. On the next record, pete and the Goat Diaper, comes. Yes, I should have quit her a long time ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, quit, her and the diaper a long time ago.
Speaker 3:Luckily I was wearing the goat diaper in the relationship.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, this is too good. This is too good. What I was thinking about when you were talking about how it was everybody growing up and being accustomed to when the music world was in our world was small and it was little was when I was at Hastings in New Braunfels.
Speaker 3:Oh man, Back when we were making money in the music industry Holy shit.
Speaker 2:And I remember Pat Green coming up and he was like hey look, I ain't ever been awake at 11 o'clock. I'm going to need everybody to shut the hell up.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I was like look at this motherfucker here, yeah, and I'm thinking and I will never forget that moment, and that was so long ago.
Speaker 3:That was so long ago.
Speaker 3:So long ago you got to remember people were making money back then, cause when we were, I think I made more money with music 10 years ago than I did now, and now we're three times bigger than we were 10 years ago. So it's like with Spotify we're barely getting money, but we use that. Helps us make money on ticket sales. Right, as you're making your money. But back in the day, man, I mean you'd sell $3,000, $4,000 of CDs a week, right, and you're getting checks. Huge, I was like making money we really had songs on the radio.
Speaker 1:Man, we were killing it. Boom, boom, boom and Hastings and Walmart and all that.
Speaker 2:Now it's like there's no physical product to sell unless they're at a show. It's so hard for I don't think that audience and fans understand the change and the transition and how difficult it is for you guys, unless now that you guys are on stage, right, it's literally.
Speaker 3:I wish Spotify. That's a good point.
Speaker 2:I wish Spotify and.
Speaker 3:Apple Music would have a link next to your name on your profile. That's like donate to the artist. Yes, and look, there's a thing where you can set up in Spotify with a charity. And maybe there's a thing where, like donate to the artist and the charity, but if you're cranking, if you're listening to Cross Canter Ragweed 1, 1700 times in a week getting ready for their concert, they're making no money on the streams no but if you're using their music like 0.0003.
Speaker 3:Yes so it's about 10 000 streams for maybe a buck oh five, yeah, right, so like if that, if you're listening to them that much you should go on there and throw them 10 bucks on something on their vin mill or something, because it's like man, man, you're using what they spent like $50,000 to record, if not more, and they're blood, sweat and tears and you're getting it for all you can eat. Basically, the music industry has turned into all you can eat. It's like if I went into my favorite what's that steakhouse in New Braunfels, muldoon's, or what's it called? Myron's, myron's, myron's I love Myron's, I'm there for a good steak Overnight. If I went to Myron's and I was like it's good, all you can eat steak for $9.99. That place would go out of business in a week. I wouldn't even make it a week.
Speaker 3:That's what it's like in the music industry. We woke up one day and it was all you can eat CD. Oh wow, I still have all my bills though. So how are we going to?
Speaker 2:do this? How did you transition?
Speaker 3:I think more live shows and honestly taking a pay cut Because the ticket price. We're still doing well selling tickets. Ticket prices have changed, right, but now I think it is. Now. I think that when people are like well, I went and saw my favorite artist and now he's doing a $45 ticket and he used to play for $15. Right, well, that's just, 93% of his income is all from live shows. So now, thanks to Spotify and Apple Music, ticket sales have gone way up.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, because we're not making it and we're off the roads. We have to make it while we're on the road and that's a really tough thing. Not saying that I don't agree. I think Spotify has opened the doors for me a lot to get my music out there, but A lot to get my music out there. But you do take a pay cut with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's a blessing and a curse, so to speak. I think it's very helpful for introductions for people that are not here, not in the US or whatever that are discovering Rich O'Toole. But it's also at the same time. What is it really doing for you in your backyard? I think, it's important for people to understand that if you guys do not go see the artist, if you do not go to the venues, March is a huge deal that helps you guys immensely.
Speaker 3:A lot. I should even do more than I do. I'm trying to use my brand to now market other stuff because it's like man, you kind of want more of a second, third income than just live tour. Right, so it's a hard business.
Speaker 2:It is. It's such a hard business. It's a struggle.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What would you say to a 13, 14-year-old, a 17-year-old, rich O'Toole, that was thinking about playing baseball?
Speaker 3:that all of a sudden decided there was the guitar. There's two. I mean now In today's world, Now Rich O'Toole, just get on TikTok and become famous in six months. Old Rich O'Toole, it took him 10 years to do it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And that's the hardest part. It was like I'm seeing kids now that I had to open up for that. Just started playing. Try to write music a week, you know, a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:I'm like this isn't fair. He hasn't paid his dues yet, but he's selling more tickets than me and the promoter. That's all they care about. So I'm like all right that the times have changed.
Speaker 2:The times have changed.
Speaker 3:The Tik TOK and the Instagram. Real uh has let kids skip really paying dues.
Speaker 2:In reality, in reality, in reality.
Speaker 3:But they'll pay it on the road, because I've seen a lot of TikTok kids, you know, get really famous and then they have no charisma on stage, none, which is tough.
Speaker 2:Stage presence is a full-on thing.
Speaker 3:It is a thing, and so it took me a long time to learn it. When I first started, my voice wasn't good. I didn't have a lot of stage charisma. It took me years of touring to get there, and now it's like muscle memory. You know the moves, you know how to see the crowd, you know how to do it. You know how to sing, even on a bad night. You know how to stay in tune. I didn't have that. I was terrible in the first couple of years.
Speaker 3:Even my mom said man we didn't want to tell you you were bad at first because you were so excited about being in the music industry.
Speaker 2:We were so proud of you, but you sucked. Yeah, you're adorable and we love you, but you were terrible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but thank god you know, thank god I did. Hey, that's what we do for our boys.
Speaker 2:That's what we do. Yeah, no, your mom was very kind, because I'd be like holy shit, that was funny, that was terrible.
Speaker 3:Off that damn thing. Please go get a job.
Speaker 2:Get down before you embarrass me. They're hiring. Yeah, oh my God. Stage presence was just a. Did you just like wake up one day and all of a sudden you got your groove on?
Speaker 3:I was always a boogie-er, I danced.
Speaker 2:Have you seen my show? I'm really rocking.
Speaker 3:I'm doing my Dwight Yolk moves.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, okay, there it is, I'm boogieing.
Speaker 3:you know, and I think you know, usually I have my trainer, jack Daniels, in the corner now.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think I was just about to bring something up, but I'm going to do it, go ahead.
Speaker 3:When you got a little bit of beer buzz and you get all those heebie-jeebies out of it. It kind I don't recommend it for a lot of people, but it does help me, it's whatever works. I do a lot of shows sober and they're not. I'm into it, but I'm not like Into it.
Speaker 2:Into it.
Speaker 3:Right, I try not to take it too far. I don't want to be drunk on stage. It's happened a couple times, but only a handful of times. There are times that you get that good three, four beer buzz and you're really, you're vibing with the crowd yeah you start, there's another element another level.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep I always say I don't have a cat because I have a lot of friends with addictions. I suffer from addiction, so I have to really watch it. It's like post-molone. When they asked him when he was drinking you know two bottles of vodka a day and now he just kind of drinks blood light, right, he was like I had a problem, but now I've like and I so it's hard when we talk about this stuff.
Speaker 3:I have a lot of friends that are addicts and I call myself an addict Like right now I'm not drinking, so I have two cigars a day and I have two ice cream drumsticks a day. Yeah, Because my brain needs that little treat, yeah, yeah. And so I try to talk to people about addiction. I'm like man, it's a serious thing it is. I'm just very lucky I'm not addicted to crack or selling my bicycle for it Mine's red wine and cheese. Holy shit, very lucky we are the same. Look at Nick's face.
Speaker 2:He's like, oh Lord. So yeah, let me tell you that I'm a red wine. Oh my God, if I say it once a day.
Speaker 3:I say it a hundred times a day. I feel so bad for anyone that cannot eat cheese. They said it comes from the same part of the brain that is addicted to heroin. It's an exact same lobe. Cheese and heroin are the exact same lobe. So it's like when I'm walking through H-E-B I see that cheese aisle.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 3:God.
Speaker 2:Pour me a glass of chilled Cabernet and let me slice off some cheese in the kitchen with some music going on and those things are vibing.
Speaker 3:And you're just like your doctors are like can you get your cholesterol down?
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, I'm going to die anyways. Your doctors are like can you get your cholesterol down? I'm like, yeah, I'm going to die anyways, look, look, look, working on it. Yeah, wine and cheese has got to happen, working on it, okay, it's got to happen. And then a slab of dark chocolate. Oh, no, no, the dark chocolate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you start fading the dark chocolate.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, I can't, I cannot saying, okay, I was just about to ask. Oh, I know we were just talking about the wiggle, yeah, the whiskey wiggle, and you know I um been yes, and and it's so funny because even I mean you have friends and you know and you're like, oh, that's, they're definitely not on the wine tonight, they're on the whiskey tequila, the serve of this or that or the whatever you know, Eric Melton, which is my baby child, my little baby man child, and that one I tell you what he's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yes, he is A little shit.
Speaker 3:I was supposed to go see him in the Lucan Blanc last week. I just moved to a Fjallraven watching from home. I sold my house in Houston and I moved to Fredericksburg like three weeks ago. Ever since then, like, my schedule is just like whoop Because I didn't realize how much live music is out that way. Oh my gosh when I was living in Houston, I was just like hanging out with my we're there all the time.
Speaker 3:I was just hanging out with my banker and oil gas friends. I'm like I got to see a concert once a week Now in Fredericksburg.
Speaker 2:Oh it, it's like New Waffles. It's seven days a week Seven DMs.
Speaker 3:Hey, I'm playing this, playing that Erickson. He's like he's swinging by. I was like I'm doing boots. I felt I'm like I want to go see him, but I already told this person.
Speaker 2:Well, he's one that I can tell exactly, or if he's being lame as shit up on the stage with his little bow-legged, double-jointed, double jointed and yeah, and when? All of a sudden he'll get this wiggle in and I'm like, okay, look at that little whiskey, just kick it in. Or if he's not, I'm like he'll take three I create.
Speaker 3:I have a good old fashion I'd. So, oh my goodness, I'm irish catholic. Oh, tool and yes, that's my real name, it's. I get made fun of a lot because it's easy to make fun of. When you have tool in your last name, you're an easy target. But uh, irish catholic. So me and my brother and dad on the whiskey are probably like I think we're a little feisty. So I watch my whiskey in public because I'm like the nicest guy in the world. But if I have that like fifth or sixth whiskey and someone bumps me like what you brought me for, yeah, yeah, I have that like dark side on whiskey so I'm like I stay away from it from the back porch. When you're sipping whiskey and you're by yourself with a cigar good cigar, everything's the world's right have you been to the Elk store?
Speaker 2:yes, it's a very good friend of mine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we, but he's actually cousins with the firm up Houston, so we probably know the same people a lot of you.
Speaker 2:So that's very good. Oh, I mean, yeah, the old fashions of the old fashions. Have you had the s'mores one? Have you had the-.
Speaker 3:I've only had the original from them.
Speaker 2:Oh, you have no idea. Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:I think we should do our second podcast. We will. Todd is very good. Yes, todd would love that. Oh, he would.
Speaker 2:We just did. He was the first one of our wandering series that we did. Yes, I love him and his wife Michelle. She's amazing and yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're a very good time. I think they moved out to Mason right when he was telling I shouldn't be like talking his business on the podcast.
Speaker 2:No, he's all about it. We send people there all the time. He's awesome.
Speaker 3:Yes, he knows his wine too, like he's really he knows his wine, his rosé, yeah. You know what you should do. I just had this awesome idea, you should open up like a wine tasting place with kangaroos, where you can like pet a kangaroo while you drink wine. I would be there like every day.
Speaker 2:That's like my living room. Yeah, okay, you can have a lemur sit on your head. Yeah, A goat that will, yeah, want to eat your. He just had peanut butter. She just had peanut butter the other day and that was a mess.
Speaker 3:So instead of mowing my lawn, could you just bring those?
Speaker 2:over. Yeah, that's exactly what you want to happen.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm going to bribe you with wine and be like hey look, I'll trade you four bottles of wine, we're going to put this one in the backyard.
Speaker 2:We're going to go on a little main street run. We're going to come back and your shit's going to be mint.
Speaker 1:It's going to look so good it's going to look so good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll do some before and after photos. We'll add it to the Tiffany Collective Edition. It'll be great. We'll tag the Foy Farm. Yeah, please, it'll be so good this sounds perfect. Yeah, it'll be good, so, so let's um before we wrap up. We've got. Where can everybody find you?
Speaker 3:yeah, where are you at? Where's what's on the tour schedule? I say the main three, uh, because it's hard to keep up with. I mean, we have a decent following on tiktok, but just facebook, instagram rich uh. Twitter at rich o tool at rich o tool on twitter. And then Facebook's Rich O'Toole Music. And the funny the reason it's Rich O'Toole Music is this is the funniest thing ever. When I was at A&M and it was 2003,. Facebook just started out of Harvard and you had to get on Facebook. You had to have a college ID or college email. Remember it wasn't open to the public yet, it was only for college students. So my buddy was going to Harvard at the time. He was like there's this new thing called Facebook, you should get on it. It's about to blow up all across colleges. I made a profile. My profile name was facebookcom slash rich. I own that, and so when the band started, I deleted it and went back and got facebookcom Rich O'Toole Music. And the whole time I'm like, dude, you would have been the owner of the coolest frigging.
Speaker 3:Facebook thing of all time. I've had so many stories like that where I've had like funny, funny opportunities and I just didn't see it in the front of my face, which at the time we didn't know what it was going to become. It's the same way. I was looking for a job when I moved to Kyle Texas and I was living with Pat Green's keyboard player, I think my roommate was working. He came home and I was like I need a job. Man Music's not really paying the bills. And I really got to. He's like there's this guy making bear-proof coolers out of his garage. He's hiring. It's like $12 an hour and I was like what are they? He's like he's selling for like 500 bucks. I was like I don't think anyone's going to buy a $500 cooler. It was Yeti, yeah. So it would have been like the six employee Yeti yes, mr Yeti, if you're still looking um and you know I'm your number one customer.
Speaker 2:I should be on a private jet right now but I'm not talking about, you know, the heroines, the cracks, the alcohols the cigars, the animals, mine is ice chest, yeah, and cups whole that was like that was the biggest thing.
Speaker 3:Everyone's got that you don't understand.
Speaker 2:I do not miss a color, I don't miss a.
Speaker 3:I'm like just stop all right, I got that's I'm gonna give it for christmas. I'm gonna try to find the most unique Yeti I can possibly find. I have See if I can match this.
Speaker 2:It's insane. I have a problem. My kids are like that's not mom. Well then, my kids do.
Speaker 3:It's like the Stanley thing.
Speaker 2:I know girls that have like 14 Stanleys. I can't do that.
Speaker 3:That's just too big. What is it? It's just too big.
Speaker 2:No, I stick to this guy. And, yeah, my kids will gator step the top of my Yetis. They can put anything you want on top of them, custom make them. They can take your logo, your CD logo, your boat, your this, your whatever. It's awesome Film, yeah. And so of course I'm like this will look so good on the nice fresh lemon color. That is a limited edition that's only going to be out for the spring of 2025, for Easter. No, it's a limited edition that's only going to be out for the spring of 2025, for Easter. No, come on now, come on.
Speaker 3:You don't need it, but you need it. But I need it and do I need the?
Speaker 2:bag and the da-da-da-da-da-da-da? Yeah, of course I do. I love it. Should we do a drive-by in Austin? Yes, and we can go run down SoCo and give them some boops. I love that, yeah, yeah, we should go pick us up a new Yeti, a new color.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the kangaroo Yeti. This is the guy yeah. The roo Yeti. The kangaroo has a Yeti.
Speaker 2:The kangaroo oh, he does yeah.
Speaker 3:Does he have a Yeti pouch?
Speaker 2:He does.
Speaker 3:Well, he has a it's in his.
Speaker 2:there it is oh there it yeah, yeti backpack. His Yeti backpack is maroon. There's his Yeti cooler, which is pink, because I hold that, because he cannot hold it just yet.
Speaker 3:Has Yeti made it to Australia, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:That's a very good question. I feel like the Yeti kangaroo pouch would crush it over there, buddy. Yeah, what do you think You're going to be an inspiration for?
Speaker 3:the Yeti pouch.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, new CD coming out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's so funny how I say that. I say CD all the time. I'm like you have our new CD.
Speaker 2:I just did it the other day and we were talking who were we talking to? And I was like forget. I said CD, we're bringing out the eight track. So if you still have the, if y'all even know what that is, that's because you're our age, yeah.
Speaker 3:You should probably get your prostate checked.
Speaker 2:Hey, you need to do that, it's important.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I mean not me, but yeah. All right. Our eighth album, ghost, was released June, so it's coming up on one year. Our new single off of there is called Fourth of July it just went to radio this week and then we have a single after that and then we'll kind of start releasing the ninth record, and then we're also doing that ritual tool and friends.
Speaker 2:That's going to be so fun. Cover album yeah, that's going to be a blast.
Speaker 3:It's also kind of like find out who your friends are, Cause some people tell you no, I'm like, oh, I thought we were buddies.
Speaker 2:I thought we were like hey so you'll see who, so you. Okay, cool, I'll remember that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. No, it'll be fun.
Speaker 2:It's going to be fun.
Speaker 3:Thank you for having me. This is so much fun.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having us here.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's a cool place.
Speaker 2:This is Buckaroo's first studio, you guys, very first studio. There's his ears. He was hippity-hopping all over the place. He was this is his buddy Buddy Rich O'Toole. Yes, it goes big. That's bananas. So they have like three toes, so this one yeah, this was their protective, so this one will actually stick out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when they're adults they can like hurt someone with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they'll get you if they want to. Their tail is actually called the fifth leg.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it kind of like that's where they one of those chairs where you can like sit. Yeah, well, I don't want for me, I just flip out of anything.
Speaker 2:But yeah, he is actually just starting to get his balance with his fifth leg and he's really starting to hippity hop around. But yeah, so they have their big one toe over here. This one is just like a side balance, but this is the one that will they operate like a side balance, but this is the one that will they operate like a thumb and they will scratch and do yeah, but they'll take it and if you notice, it has split. Oh, I see that. See how it has two little nails.
Speaker 3:What a unique animal. That is amazing. It's like God's work man.
Speaker 2:Well, that's kind of funny that you mentioned that, because they call this the devil's toe.
Speaker 3:The devil's toe.
Speaker 2:Just saying I don't know that's rude because they're so sweet.
Speaker 1:They're so sweet I would never call you devil's toe.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, but he goes everywhere, we go.
Speaker 3:I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we just kind of run around and surprise everybody with God knows, it's a great mascot.
Speaker 3:Or I wouldn't call him mascot, or I wouldn't call him mascot.
Speaker 2:He's a trooper, he's a good boy well thank you so much.
Speaker 3:This has been fun.
Speaker 2:It was a blast round two we've got plans at the elk store and the third one we'll do a wine and cheese tasting live on the podcast we should do that. We're coming at you, todd watch out Todd and that's our favorite part we're coming at you, todd, watch out Todd. And good, that's our favorite part.