The Rambling Gypsy

Return to the Jungle pt.2 (A Tapestry of Stories and Smiles)

The Rambling Gypsy Season 3 Episode 19

When was the last time you felt genuinely connected to the stories you read or the people you meet? Join us on a heartfelt journey down memory lane as we reminisce about Walter, our delightfully absent-minded mathematician friend from London, whose quirky wisdom still shapes our lives in unexpected ways. Our conversation meanders through the emotional landscapes crafted by literature and writing—exploring how these creative endeavors stir up a cocktail of joy, nostalgia, and even discomfort. 

We then find solace in the simple act of journaling, a cathartic exercise akin to emotional spring cleaning. Picture this: you, on a porch with your favorite drink, capturing raw, unfiltered thoughts on paper. This is not just about writing—it's about leaving a piece of your soul in the world, hoping to stumble upon a dog-eared copy of your work in some far-flung bookstore as a testament to your passion. Amidst dreamlike narratives of floating among clouds and debating color names, we weave humor and cultural insights that will leave you chuckling and pondering the quirks of human nature.

As the conversation unfolds, we touch on deeper themes of self-love and personal growth, acknowledging how past regrets can linger if not resolved, and reflecting on the transformative power of time and new relationships. Through personal anecdotes, we explore how family dynamics shape our ways of expressing affection, and how love, in all its unpredictable beauty, continues to evolve in our lives. This episode is a tapestry of emotions and insights, wrapped in laughter and thoughtful reflection, inviting you to join us in embracing the highs and lows of human connection.

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Speaker 1:

I put a blessing on it. Too real, that's not metaphoric. We just put the I in iconic, buzzing like I'm electronic. Ah yeah, I put a blessing on it. See me dripping in it 24-7 on it. I'm just being honest. Ah, holy water dripping, dripping from my neck to my crap song Two stepping on it live.

Speaker 2:

I don't do social media Right and my phone is mostly at home or it's. You know, I don't carry it with me, I'm not walking around with it in my hand all the time. I'm terrible that way, but if I could have, it would have been nice to have kept in contact with a few people. I think and found out where they wound up. You know, I lived in London for a while. I was there as an exchange student and the guy that was in charge of us was a mathematician.

Speaker 3:

What do you mean? In charge of us?

Speaker 2:

The exchange students. He was kind of like the mother hen and he was a mathematician, published a bunch of books, brilliant guy I mean. He went into like some obscure library in London in the basement and found some ratty old papers and it was some brilliant, you know mathematician from hundreds of years ago. And then you know, redid his notes and presented it I mean just really but absent-minded professor. You know two different colored socks. You know he could walk over a curb this big and trip over it and turn around and go back to his car and walk back and tripped over and tri and tripped over, trip over the same same same, same, same same.

Speaker 2:

You know, when he used to drive, he'd drive us around in the van. We'd go see sights and you'd look out the back and you'd see everybody and like uh, because I mean just almost getting into an accident every five minutes, you know yeah and uh, I wish I would have kept. I know somebody else that drives like that I wish I would have kept in touch with him.

Speaker 3:

I wish you would have too.

Speaker 2:

Walter. His name was Walter. I had to write an essay before I left London when I was in school and a journal. I'd have a journal and I wrote this journal and I mean you know all right. So there was some notes in there about some of the dates. I went on and I'll just leave it at that and I turned it in I'm laughing now and his wife. We had a. We had a goodbye dinner, everybody was there and his wife came up to me, pulled me off to the side and thanked me because I guess it got Walter excited.

Speaker 3:

Oh, Walter, you have cute little little watery eyes. Right now I'm Walter. You have cute little watery eyes. Right now I'm Walter. Walter, we had a puppy named Walter, didn't we Nick? We did.

Speaker 2:

Anyway.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Lovely man.

Speaker 3:

Sounds like it.

Speaker 2:

Lovely man, brilliant man. I just he was, you know, the absent-minded professor, the epitome, he was, just you know. But I just, you know, I don't know. Anyway, there's people I don't know, Anyway, there's people I would have liked to kept in touch with, certainly he was one of them, and then some of my chums, you know, some of my chums.

Speaker 3:

What's a chum?

Speaker 2:

Friend, it's an English term, british term.

Speaker 1:

Down here when we chum, it's what we?

Speaker 3:

we mix up a bunch of shit in a five gallon bucket and we're going to go fishing. Yeah, I know Could be somebody that was made a bad choice. Or we could throw dog food in some kern in a five gallon bucket with some sour beer and let it sit. That's chum down here Right. A little different than that we were in.

Speaker 2:

England Just now. We were in England, just thought I'd roll with it. We were in England Just now we were in. England. Yeah, so I just thought I'd roll with it. You pick things up.

Speaker 3:

You rolled with some things in this white bread book.

Speaker 2:

I think so, I think so. Yeah, you know. And then you know you read reviews and some people love it, you know, and there's a real connection.

Speaker 3:

Do you read your own reviews?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely all of them you do. And then there's there's some where people are like it was too dark. I was in a good mood until I read this book and now you know, I want to, I want to, I want to cut my heart out with a dull knife. What's that?

Speaker 3:

Do you think they're too sensitive?

Speaker 2:

No, you know, here's the deal. A writer's job is to elicit some kind of emotion in the reader. Trigger the mind yeah, and it's the reader's job to decide what that's going to be. I agree If you read something like this and you laugh and you're like, oh yeah, I can connect with that. Wow, that was a good story. Or if you're like boo-hoo or oh, now I'm going to be in a bad mood, I'm going to have nightmares, or maybe that's a bit of a stretch, but then that's up to you.

Speaker 3:

It's your own prerogative.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's up to the reader.

Speaker 3:

Well, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

If I elicit emotion, just as long as it's emotion, you know, if you read it and you're like, yeah, I fell asleep, I was bored out of my mind, you know.

Speaker 3:

Well, I'm one. I'm not a reader, because it does make me fall asleep, but that's just my. It doesn't have anything to do with the content, it just has.

Speaker 2:

That's just me okay, that's just me I I, I don't sit still, I don't, I?

Speaker 3:

I I'm like a little tasmanian devil. It just spins around all over the place all the time. So when I do sit still and I get that from my mom my mom was the exact same way the minute she sat still boom, done, see ya. Good night, sweet dreams, and I'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

That's fine.

Speaker 3:

But reading is something that will absolutely like. If I'm having trouble sleeping or whatever, the first thing I can do. But I will tell you um most Americans take pills well.

Speaker 2:

I take my medication. I don't do any of that.

Speaker 3:

But, um, now in my life, right now I am I've been in therapy my entire life and I've talked about it on the podcast a million different times. And y'all can take it for whatever it's worth, it doesn't make a shit to me, but it is what I need and it's what I do. But I can pick up a book that I can think that is going to better me or help me, or, and I can sit there and finish it from front to back in one evening and never fall asleep.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so you read nonfiction.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3:

But at the same time I can put on a movie, and when I'm done I'm just done, like done. But if it is something that really gets a hold of me and it's a series, I will sit up there. It doesn't make a shit how fucking tired I am or whatever my and I will binge that entire freaking thing. I feel like that's what your book is going about, all your books I did. I told him and he was. He said why did you buy them and tell them what I said?

Speaker 3:

oh, because uh you said I have books for you because, yeah, because.

Speaker 2:

And I said that's not yeah because that's what we do for people that's how you support people yeah, that's how we do it. That's how we support for people right and I sent the kids.

Speaker 3:

I read the snippet or the, the little, the briefing or whatever that was on the bottom of whatever. That was very interesting. Did you know that was on there?

Speaker 2:

what snippet?

Speaker 3:

it's a nick. How do you have?

Speaker 2:

oh, the book itself no, it's about you oh, yeah, of course, yeah the author, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, yeah is that okay.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, all right, it was great I think so, oh, I did thank god yeah I'm glad you didn't hate it no, I guess that's why I'm here. Yes, right on, that's because I like white bread right on so I think I mean, it's typical.

Speaker 2:

You have to just write a little bio, just kind of try to put something. You know that, you know I'm not a moron and is it hard to write your own bio? It took a few times. You know it took a little bit of time. But yeah, some people try to be um, I think some authors try to be more fun with it.

Speaker 3:

Grab some wine, Nick.

Speaker 2:

Some more fun. Yeah, kind of like humorous, you know.

Speaker 3:

On the bio.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, you know I'm into crafts and I have a herb garden, I mean, but I'm just, I'm not wired that way.

Speaker 3:

I'm not.

Speaker 2:

So and.

Speaker 3:

I'm not wired that way. I'm not. So it's hard for me to like the girls will ask me on different things, about a bio and how to I have a hard time Like I can't. I can't do that. Like she's going to grub, but I can't. That would be really hard, it's very hard for me. I'm not going to say that will be because it is. It's that to gross, but I can't. I, that would be really hard, it's. It's very hard for me. I'm not going to say that will be because it is. It's that's hard for me.

Speaker 2:

But if you have to, you have to. If you have to do it, you have to do it. You have to sit down and do it.

Speaker 3:

So is your bio on each one of your books, or is it? It's all related?

Speaker 2:

They're all connected. So just a little bit about me. That's all. Try to update it every once in a while.

Speaker 3:

Are they different on each book?

Speaker 2:

What my bio? No, my bio hasn't changed. I'm the same person.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I wouldn't change it.

Speaker 3:

But it doesn't change with the story of the book.

Speaker 2:

Like, rewrite it for a book, just your bio.

Speaker 3:

Does it change with the story of with with the story? So?

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry we had.

Speaker 3:

No, don't be because you're the smart one, I'm not. We have lots of things that we do thank you, man, that man, that's plenty. So if we have um you just hit her. Yeah, no, she, she gonna hit me twice. She does, yep.

Speaker 2:

That's why I'm not great. That's my girl.

Speaker 3:

That's so good, but um different scenarios. Yes, I'm the same person, but different scenarios bring a different side of my bio. Okay, I never gave it that much thought Seriously.

Speaker 2:

Seriously Never gave it that much thought, you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I just never gave it that much thought you make me think a lot. About what.

Speaker 3:

Everything, a lot of things.

Speaker 2:

Really, I hope that's good.

Speaker 3:

That is very good.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's why I'm so excited. You make me think too, really.

Speaker 2:

You make me think why did she invite me here?

Speaker 3:

Why am I back in second time? Now you're doing what I do is overthinking things, but no, that's the only thing. I'm just so honored that you're here. Oh really, wow, I'm super flattered 10% super flattered. No, you have no idea.

Speaker 2:

I'm super flattered.

Speaker 3:

When we, when we visited um the first time and we left, and you know our mutual friend mags I've known mags for a very long time and you guys obviously have as well and um he said, man, I've never seen you like so quiet, like, and I said no, it wasn't, and nick is with me 24 7 365 it's my fault no, it's not.

Speaker 3:

There's no fault, it's he. He's never seen me process things like he's never seen me like nick has seen me where she knows if I'm going to go, if I'm building a stage or if I'm setting up a a venue or if we're um. My creative mindset is I'm a very, very strange bird. Bird, no, I think your action.

Speaker 2:

Your creative mindset is action.

Speaker 1:

It's real quick and fast.

Speaker 2:

When you said about decorating, about setting things up you physically. It's action for you Am.

Speaker 3:

I wrong? No, not at all. I mean, that's what I picked up, but it's not planned, it's not um. It happens real quick, real fast. If and I've had, um we've done weddings at their resort, I've done private parties, I've done um surprise birthday parties, I've had people that have reached out to me and said hey, can we, can we do this? And and we're going to um get married in 2032. And we'd like to talk to you right now. I'm like wait, what Look? I went into that five-year plan, 500-year plan you were talking about.

Speaker 3:

I'm only five years old now, and I'm thinking you know what you guys need to contact me about two to three weeks before your wedding and they're like wait what? And I'm thinking oh no, if I have that much time to, I am going to get myself in so much trouble. And no, I can't, I'm not built that way.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

It happens real quick, real fast. I need to be left alone in the scenario. I'm going to ask you what your hot buttons are. What do you want to accomplish out of this? And then I we need to separate. I'm going to go to the left, right whatever, and then it's going to happen or it's not, but it's real quick and it's real fast. Much different than reading writing, writing.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, right, I told you it was cathartic. I don't even know what the fuck that means. I talked about this last time. It's a purge, it's a release. You know, you get worked up. You get worked up, you know, and you feel it and you have to get it on paper. It's I'm, I'm. I don't want to say this is probably really. It's like almost like you vomit it out. It's just blah and you got to get it out. You know, you got to. You know what I mean. I do.

Speaker 3:

I'm a. I like to journal.

Speaker 2:

And you write, and you write, you know, and it comes out, and then you're.

Speaker 3:

Yes. And like I said, it's a very Write drunk edit sober Right.

Speaker 2:

And you know I mean especially when I'm you know, not all the time. I don't always write, because I'll write in the morning sometimes, but not when I'm liquored up. But some of my best work, I think, is when I've got a buzz on Right. You know I'll sit on the back porch with a bottle of some rum or whatever. Yes, tequila.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

And and just sit there. You know, get started, bring out a candle yeah, I won't turn the lights on and just sit there and write, write, write, write, write, write, write.

Speaker 3:

I do. There's times where I've done.

Speaker 2:

And writing is action. It's active. It's active Since you know you have that energy, and to me it's the same thing. You're actually involved with it and you know if you read enough and I know you're not a big reader, but if you read enough and I've always been this way because I've done a lot of work in journals and magazines and stuff it's like okay, I've read a bunch of your stuff, now you're going to read my stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's your turn yeah, it does wow I'll process.

Speaker 2:

That's part of it also. That's part of it also. You know I've read enough of your stuff. I've read so much stuff, so you know what? Now you're going to read something that I wrote. You know, let me share something with you, right?

Speaker 3:

tell me what you think what do you um on this first book? Not white bread, yes. What do you want people to take from it? Wow Um if anything at all.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's an interesting question. Like I said, each story stands alone Right, and, like I said, there's some life lessons in each story.

Speaker 3:

Did you think about that when you, when you were starting Absolutely?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah, Same thing with the second book you know, and some of the stories in the second book and again, it's not so testosterone-y, some of the second book. There's some of my stories in there and some are just totally fiction and some are kind of like a mixture, but it's still the same idea, trying to pass on some life lessons and hopefully, some of the stories. People sit and reflect, because life goes by so fast and it's hard to stop and think about things once in a while. You know, and if, if you know, what do I want to get out of what? What you know, to me, a successful writing career is this, and this is this is probably very romantic, but I'm like in the Pacific Island somewhere, in some small little island and typical those, those little islands, there'll be like one little store, you know be a small store on the island where people come in with boats.

Speaker 2:

You know, either personal or something larger and you know, and they trade things or put things in there, and the one store has everything from you know, clothing, canned goods, uh, fishing tackle, maybe some who knows a little bit of everything. And I walk in this is a fantasy. I walk in and there's a beat-up cardboard box in the far corner and somebody has a black magic marker and they scrawled on it, you know, like 10 cents EA, you know each, and it's all crooked. And I walk over to this beat-up cardboard box and there's a bunch of paperbacks in there and they're all torn up and well read and I'm pawing through them and I find one of my books in the bottom and to me that means I would have made it I freaking love the shit out of that.

Speaker 3:

Just saying that's freaking epic.

Speaker 2:

That would be epic for me.

Speaker 3:

When you started sailing, when you started that and we started with the islands, we went to the boat pulling in. We went to the little store.

Speaker 2:

I could be like I said right then, and there you could bury me in the ground.

Speaker 3:

See, and that's how I feel.

Speaker 2:

I'd be ready to take my dirt nap right after that.

Speaker 3:

I tell the kids all the time I talk about.

Speaker 2:

That would be the pinnacle.

Speaker 3:

I would be okay if my dirt nap happened tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

That's good. That's a good life Because you have lived for an eternity. We talked about that last time, but that would be a good life I'm not done, you're ready, but if it was to happen, you would never be done.

Speaker 3:

No, you would never be done. Damn right, you would never be done.

Speaker 2:

I don't know you that well and I could tell already you would never be done Exactly.

Speaker 3:

Right, which is why I just terrorizing everybody down here going, and then what I wanted to do was and then nope, that doesn't go here, and nope, you should have put.

Speaker 2:

and this would be so much cuter if you move this over here and I would just move it myself yeah, I can imagine if they keep you, like your head, alive forever, you know, and they just carried around your face and your skull and you'd be just badgering everyone, you know that's exactly what I'm gonna do'll be like please put the rest of it in the ground.

Speaker 3:

Please, for fuck's sake, put the rest of it in the ground. Why is she still doing what she's?

Speaker 2:

doing Please, I'm going to.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to. It's going to be fun. It's going to be a good time up there. I'm going to bounce from cloud to cloud to cloud, to cloud to cloud.

Speaker 2:

Right on.

Speaker 3:

I'm going lips. A couple front, a couple aerials, a couple side-by-sides Cool Dance, a little jig.

Speaker 2:

Love it. I can't wait. I'll be in blackness. I can't wait.

Speaker 3:

I'll be in blackness just floating around, thinking going. I remember that crazy gal from New Braunfels. Yeah, whatever happened to her, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's probably whatever.

Speaker 3:

Uh whatever, that's right. When your nose is going to be itching, I'm going to scratch it. I'm telling you there'll be no itches.

Speaker 2:

There'll be no itches. I won't have to reach for anything, nothing, I just hanging out, you know.

Speaker 3:

Party of one. George, party of one.

Speaker 2:

Well, I just don't think everybody thinks're going to live to be 100 and afterwards it'll be a big party and it'll be white clouds and you know, and you know dove, birds, and it's like open bar.

Speaker 3:

You'll see everybody you miss and your family, and we'll all get together see, I don't think I'm going to see anybody, I think it's just going to be really. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Not even family. Maybe they want to see you. Ooh, what happens if it's their decision and not yours?

Speaker 3:

Oh, we're going to talk about it. If they do, we're going to sit down at that table and we're going to have a chit chat.

Speaker 2:

They're going to stay on their cloud.

Speaker 3:

My clouds are going to be pink.

Speaker 2:

My elders are probably not going to be pink. Really, you like pink, my elders?

Speaker 3:

Not really.

Speaker 2:

My elders.

Speaker 3:

I would have loved. For whatever reason, I think my cloud is going to be pink.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot of questions I would have liked to ask my. You know my elders.

Speaker 3:

I usually.

Speaker 2:

I wonder I remember them saying that. I wonder you know, and then you start thinking, oh wow, I kind of missed out on that. I would have liked to know. It's too late now, anyway, so you can have a pink cloud, huh.

Speaker 3:

I think so.

Speaker 2:

But you don't like pink. No Well, I guess that's good. At least not white. Everybody thinks white and light. You know light and stuff.

Speaker 3:

Mine's going to be a nice hint of Fuchsia.

Speaker 2:

How about fuchsia I?

Speaker 3:

know what fuchsia is that's so bright.

Speaker 2:

I know what fuchsia is.

Speaker 3:

I do too. She lives in the Bronx.

Speaker 2:

A lot of men do not know what the color fuchsia is.

Speaker 3:

That's because they need to get in touch with their personals.

Speaker 2:

No, you have to date a woman who likes fuchsia.

Speaker 3:

Then you learn what fuchsia is you have to be in tune with you. Any man that's comfortable in their manhood should know what fuchsia is really you think so?

Speaker 2:

absolutely okay yeah, it's a palette it's a palette of color yes, it is of a ray of color why does a man have to know what fuchsia is?

Speaker 3:

why shouldn't a man know what fuchsia is?

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, if he dates a woman that likes black, that always dresses in black, then he probably would never know what fuchsia is.

Speaker 3:

That is a choice. Sounds depressing.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, it sounds, Some women are.

Speaker 3:

I mean it sounds like the Adams family Well sounds, some women are. I mean it sounds like the uh, the adams family well, some women are but, some women, you know, I mean I don't want to go.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying full-on goth, but some women are. Some women do like black. They wear a lot of black or brown or some other color and they're not into pink or fuchsia.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, can't judge a man by his color palette.

Speaker 3:

Oh, but you can.

Speaker 2:

Really Okay.

Speaker 3:

No, you can judge for all the wrong reasons.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you don't seem judgmental to me, though.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I'm racist as fuck.

Speaker 2:

No shit, but you know that was. You're not judgmental, you're observant. I'm extremely sarcastic. Oh, I'm cynical.

Speaker 3:

I know you don't know me that. Well, I'll get out.

Speaker 2:

I'm more sarcastic than anything.

Speaker 3:

What's the difference between sarcastic and cynical?

Speaker 2:

Ooh, sarcastic and cynical. Probably a couple letters, I don't know what.

Speaker 3:

You're the smart one, I'm not.

Speaker 2:

I asked you the question. I told you I don't know, maybe the spelling that's about it, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Cynical and sarcasm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

A day of the week.

Speaker 2:

Really? Yeah, no, I don't think so. I beg to differ. I beg to differ. I mean I see sarcasm in a lot of things. I like to joke around, I love I have a good, I have a, believe it or not, I do have a good sense of humor and I and like. Sarcastic is one of my, like, my strongest traits. But, um, cynical is no, I don't think I'm cynical I don't think you're cynical. Yeah, but I love being sarcastic.

Speaker 3:

I'm sarcastic as shit.

Speaker 2:

Sarcasm is funny.

Speaker 3:

It's so much fun, but some people can't embrace it. They don't know how to take it. They're offended by it.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

Texans are offended by sarcasm. We've got a bunch of pussies around here. Don't let them, don't judge us all. We just talked about that. I'll tell you something funny.

Speaker 2:

I spent most of my time in the South. You know the Carolinas, virginia, tennessee. Texas Spent my adult life. I left the Northeast when I was in my teens and I remember coming to Texas just as a joke. Just as a joke, and I would see a Texas flag. I'd go oh look, puerto Rican. You know Puerto Rican flag, which was just nothing but sarcasm it was a joke and people would get so offended.

Speaker 3:

We are very proud, I understand.

Speaker 2:

Only state in the union US flag and the Texas state flag flies at the same height.

Speaker 3:

Only state in the union.

Speaker 2:

Salute to that. I understand. That's why I love this state very. Yeah, I feel very at home.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yes, I understand our pride and when it comes to it was just an example.

Speaker 2:

It was just an example, but I could give you other examples are you watching my?

Speaker 3:

it was a joke.

Speaker 2:

It was a joke. It's just sarcasm. It's just like I was like oh, you know jokes and sarcasm are two different things. Can I tell you a joke I recently wrote and I told my wife this is a flag.

Speaker 1:

No, it's about my wife.

Speaker 2:

I wrote this joke and I told my wife this joke and she didn't think it was funny. In fact she didn't get it. So I'm going to run it past you. Tell me if this is funny. All right, let's go. Okay, so I have a girlfriend and she, and she thinks her wine box is a kitchen appliance. Come on, it's kind of funny, isn't it? She didn't even get it. She didn't think it was funny. I appreciate that she thinks her wine box is a kitchen appliance. That is kind of funny huh, I get it I totally get it.

Speaker 2:

Right on, I told you I'm a wino.

Speaker 1:

That's why I told it, because I thought you would enjoy it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I totally get it yeah, so you can tell somebody that joke and say and use you as the punchline.

Speaker 3:

I usually walk myself into my own punchline. Yeah, I just kind of say, hey, you know what my wine box my wine go hey, you know what my wine box is?

Speaker 2:

my is a kitchen, for me is a kitchen appliance. You can say that.

Speaker 3:

I have a hat that I have been offered. I think the last bid on that hat was $7,500. And the hat it's not an actual bid, it's an offer. Oh, an offer or whatever, yeah, no, it's not. It's not for sale.

Speaker 2:

It's your hat.

Speaker 3:

It's my hat.

Speaker 2:

Okay. And it says I fuck the owner.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I am the owner.

Speaker 2:

Okay, all right, congratulations.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

You've climbed that mountain.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

More than once Was it good.

Speaker 3:

Of course it was.

Speaker 2:

Right on, there you go. Self-love is the best love.

Speaker 3:

You're damn right. It's like scratching that itch Look at that.

Speaker 2:

You want to cheers again, don't you Look?

Speaker 3:

Look at that speed. You want to cheers again, don't?

Speaker 2:

you Look, self-love is the best love it is. If you don't love yourself, you can't love anyone else. Agreed, I had a hooker tell me that Really she got I was in college.

Speaker 1:

I was in college. You must have scratched her itch. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2:

We did go on a date, but nothing happened.

Speaker 3:

We know I'm not going to let that slide. Yes, you can.

Speaker 2:

But anyway she was, she had a daughter. She had a daughter and people would. She told me people would get on her case about not paying enough attention to her daughter and at the time she was trying to get her life in a good spot, you know. And um, and she said, and I'll never, and I'll never forget this either. She said if you, if you're not, if you're not happy with yourself, you can't make anybody else happy around you. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

I mean if you're miserable with yourself, then you'll make you know. You know, obviously so, and that's what you said and it kind of stuck with me too. So she was busy working on it and making herself a better person, something that she liked you know before she could really kind of pass it on to her child.

Speaker 3:

So anyway, that's very valid.

Speaker 2:

I agree with her, since we're talking about self-love, so can't love anybody until you love yourself. I agree, I know that's the same thing about death floating around in your own thoughts. That would be purgatory if you hated yourself. Ooh, I shouldn't have done that and I shouldn't have done this, and I should have been better to her and I should have been better to him do you think that I don't think that you should be thinking about those moments when you die?

Speaker 3:

I think you should be thinking about those moments while you're still here yes, but sometimes we don't have time.

Speaker 2:

We don't have time, but in eternity you have time. But yes, we think about that, we think about it, you know.

Speaker 3:

I do.

Speaker 2:

I did something this past week. I wish I didn't do and I'm not going to share it with you, but I wish I didn't do and I've been struggling with the last few days, but I was liquored up so did you fix it? No, and I thought, and then the next day, I no, I'm not going to fix it. Why? Because it wasn't that big of a deal and I don't want to discuss it.

Speaker 3:

But you don't have to, but it is a big deal if you're still thinking about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is, but it's personal.

Speaker 3:

Most of them are.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean it's, it's my, you know it's my, you know it's internal, it's in me. Everything right it does. Time heals everything.

Speaker 3:

Does it?

Speaker 2:

Yep, same thing with the ocean Salt water? No, is it? Salt water cures everything, whether it's sweat.

Speaker 3:

Salt water burns.

Speaker 2:

Salt water cures everything, whether it's sweat, tears or the sea.

Speaker 3:

Salt water stings.

Speaker 2:

That's a quote. Salt water cures everything Sweat, tears or the sea, but time, time heals everything. Time of the sea, but um time, time heals everything time lets you get over a lot of things it does.

Speaker 2:

Yeah sure, death of a loved one. After you know initially and I in this book is that way too initially my father passed away. It's all about you know, oh my god, you know chiming and then, after years, go on, you think about the good times you had with that person, you know, and it's more positive than negative and you accept it. It's probably has something to do with the stages of grief, but you accept it and you think of the positive things yeah be positive. So time heals a lot of things.

Speaker 3:

It does.

Speaker 2:

We live long enough and we're not taking our say it dirt nap. Yeah, say it. Say it Dirt nap, dirt nap. There you go.

Speaker 3:

No, I'm not ready for my dirt nap, but if that was to happen, I'd be, I'd be all right with it. I'd be, I'd be all right with it. Okay, I've had enough um kids and people that have crossed my path that still reach out to me to this day, that um tell me, thank you.

Speaker 2:

And that I will take that with I take it with me every single day.

Speaker 3:

Can I flip you a compliment? You can flip me anything, as long as it's not the bird?

Speaker 2:

it's not, I would never do that, but I don't know you, obviously, and we've we've sat this the. You know we sat down twice together now and unfortunately it's been on camera. But, um, I could see that yeah you. You are, you're a good person.

Speaker 3:

Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Likewise. You're a good person, so the book.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

Not White Bread Good. This is the first one, many to come. Can I read something on the back?

Speaker 2:

Can.

Speaker 1:

I read something on the back, please.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

For those who like to travel. And it says right here, it says he shares moments from his life, while in New York, maine, washington DC, taxa, dominica, afghanistan, saudi Arabia, so it does kind of take a trip around the world too, if you're into that also. Their settings vary, you know, and I don't know if I said I probably skipped a line Florida, grand Bahama AT, so just a bunch of different countries, a bunch of different places. So too, if you're like into travel and adventure, life lessons that's really the thrust of the book. A little bit of poetry Don't be upset with that, because I don't think it's that bad. They're short pieces and then quotes, and then some quotes I've written over the years.

Speaker 3:

I'm a quote person. I love quotes. So, why I am infatuated with them.

Speaker 2:

Have you read quote books before.

Speaker 3:

All the time.

Speaker 2:

Really Well. There's quotes in both books.

Speaker 3:

I send them to the girls on a regular basis. I send them to the kids, I send them to yeah, I'm a huge quote person. It can change so much.

Speaker 2:

So good enough is seldom good and never enough.

Speaker 3:

Right on, I love that one. I do too. I got that from grandma. Yes, that's so I got that from grandma. Yes, that's so I got that from grandma, well, impressive work.

Speaker 2:

Grant Ben Franklin Jr's Almanac Good enough is seldom good and never enough. Never settle for good enough. He's good enough, she's good enough, it's good enough. Don't settle for that. Don't settle for that. Don't settle for that. No, that's no way to live your life, no, yeah.

Speaker 3:

One thing that made me think and really realize about settling and things that I you can, some people like him, some people hate him. It is what it is, but this is one thing that stuck and he took um it, whatever the conversation was at this particular time, because I've seen him do it multiple times. But in his show he took a ruler and spread it across the floor and said do you realize how old you are right now?

Speaker 3:

and this person was 51, 52, 60, 65, whatever that's middle age uh-huh, most people don't live when we just we were talking about it earlier past the age of 70. If you make it great Congratulations. Do you realize that you are doing the bullshit that you are fucking doing and that you are only going to possibly be here If God chooses that? You will be here for possibly maybe another 10 years, maybe another five, maybe another 20, but you're on this portion of that ruler until somebody was talking about death.

Speaker 3:

Huh, yes, right on phil oh, I mean it's yeah and it and the dash has been a a I've sent the kids. They didn't know about the dash and and yeah, you, the dash it's. It's not when you got here naked or when you leave naked, in my case the dash in the middle. What did you do?

Speaker 2:

the magic and mayhem. It's not the dash, it's the magic and mayhem it's the I'll.

Speaker 3:

I'll send you the dash, we're all born.

Speaker 2:

that's how it starts for everyone, and we all die. That's how it starts for everyone, and we all die. That's how it ends. Yep, it's what you do with the middle part.

Speaker 3:

That's right, magic and mayhem?

Speaker 2:

No, it's not. It's called magic and mayhem.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I think it's magic and mayhem.

Speaker 3:

I think I like that. I think it's crazy and it's magical on a tombstone and I hate the word, but and I can't believe I just did that it's the year you're born and it's the year that you pass away, but they always put the dash in the middle and that's why it's called the dash.

Speaker 2:

That's why it's dash. What's going to be on your tombstone? Are you going to put a quote on your tombstone?

Speaker 3:

Am I yeah?

Speaker 2:

Have you thought about that? I Am, I, yeah. Have you thought about that? I haven't. I have not thought about that no. It's going to be. You know, here lies.

Speaker 3:

Tiffany, here lies a fucking shit show is what it's going to say.

Speaker 2:

I don't think so. You wouldn't write that, would you?

Speaker 3:

I wouldn't, the kids would.

Speaker 2:

No, they wouldn't write a shit show.

Speaker 3:

They would.

Speaker 2:

They'd probably love you to death.

Speaker 3:

I love my kids but I love hard. I'm a very what I tell everybody on the daily I love you, I do. I love big. I think it's very important.

Speaker 2:

Okay, love big.

Speaker 3:

I do.

Speaker 2:

I love very, very big you don't love small, you love big I love very big, big and I will.

Speaker 3:

I love very big, big and I will tell you Love huge, I love big.

Speaker 2:

I will say I love you big.

Speaker 3:

I don't love small.

Speaker 2:

I love huge, love you big. I love you big. Okay, yeah, I do.

Speaker 1:

Right on yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I'll be. I'm sure they feel it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

They're big, okay, right on, they do. That's nice, that's flattering, that's you.

Speaker 3:

I can see you doing that. Mags and I were going on to Home Depot. That was a fucking experience. This guy on a Saturday with me at Home Depot and I'm the project queen and whatever, as I've been told before. But I love me some projects and I was building and I had my notebook and all my things.

Speaker 2:

I can imagine you causing a ruckus at Home Depot. They don't think.

Speaker 1:

I work there.

Speaker 2:

No, they don't, and I don't know why. No, they don't.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, Believe me. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

We're all on first name basis Miss, miss Yep.

Speaker 3:

Anybody that walks in there? What?

Speaker 2:

aisle. They need to go to what?

Speaker 3:

bay they need to go to.

Speaker 2:

I'm looking for this plumbing thing. Yeah, from that person. Oh yeah, Really I would never approach you.

Speaker 3:

Poor shit.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't.

Speaker 3:

Why.

Speaker 2:

I just wouldn't. I'd run the other way. If I didn't know you, I'd run the other way.

Speaker 1:

Would you really? I would never think you were a.

Speaker 2:

Home Depot person.

Speaker 3:

Holy, you're a Home Depot person. Holy pickles. I would never think you were a Home Depot worker.

Speaker 2:

It is my favorite place in the entire world.

Speaker 3:

Really it's the only time she'll go shopping. That's the only time, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Your favorite place to go shopping Wow.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Mine would be a liquor store.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I got a couple of them. I'll send you that. I'd be a liquor store. Support, support, support.

Speaker 2:

I'd be a liquor store, it would be mine. No, mine is definitely.

Speaker 3:

Home Depot.

Speaker 2:

Right on.

Speaker 3:

But we're leaving Home Depot and you called your mom right, or did she? She was doing something.

Speaker 2:

And someone asked you where the plywood was.

Speaker 3:

Well, he's on the phone with his mom and they're having a conversation or whatever. And he was like, okay, we're trying to pull out of the gas station because we went to two or three and this one's on negative E and we're on fumes and he still hadn't put any fuel in his truck.

Speaker 2:

Why do I not? Why do I believe that? Why do I believe that? 100% Okay. So this setting. Yes, I got the setting Okay.

Speaker 3:

And so we're trying to ease through two, three lane, four lane deal and he's on the phone and he hangs up and I said you didn't tell her that you loved her.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was pretty lame.

Speaker 3:

He said okay, mom, I got to go. Are you doing this Really? That, yeah, it was pretty lame.

Speaker 2:

He said okay, mom, I got to go. Are you doing this Really?

Speaker 1:

That's pretty lame. Yeah, that's pretty lame I said you forgot.

Speaker 3:

So you need to call her back right now and you need to tell your mom you love her.

Speaker 2:

You did not say, did he do it? No Of course not, bossy woman. I just wanted to get her celly, so I could just tell her that we love you and we made it through and I did say we're about to die in a four lane traffic.

Speaker 3:

Some families are not that way, because your son is driving Some families are not that way.

Speaker 2:

Some families are not that way. They're not that affectionate.

Speaker 3:

My family was not my dad and my mom never.

Speaker 1:

But your kids are.

Speaker 2:

My kids every single one you can ask Nick. Nick hears us never, but your kids are my kids. So every single one you can ask nick, your family's affection, your family's affection, his family's not affection. You can't hold them. You can't hold them to the same standard. We can't. Some families are not that way. They're very standoffish.

Speaker 3:

They're very standoffish my dad never told me that he loved me until probably the last year to two years. He would say, and I would always say I love you, dad, and he'd be like, okay, bye.

Speaker 2:

You didn't say I love you big. I always say I love you big. Do you say it to your dad, mm-hmm, I'd make you call him back and say it. Yep, but some families aren't that way, you know. They just aren't, you know.

Speaker 3:

I was not raised that way.

Speaker 2:

My family was not affectionate at all, not at all.

Speaker 3:

Not huggers, not at all. I'm a hugger.

Speaker 2:

Not at all, and I'm not, I'm really not a hugger, you know, but I you know the thing is, and I'd be honest with you too.

Speaker 3:

That's what.

Speaker 2:

Max said Well, it's also has to do with respect. Also, you know somebody else's, you know somebody. It's not a call. Eh, I understand that, I understand that, I understand that. But I, because my the way I was raised, yeah, I mean my family didn't you know Right, wasn't that way, you know?

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I get it. I would call up my mother on the phone and every time I called her up she couldn't wait to get off. And you know it was like it was almost. She thought it was the old days when it was like really expensive to make long distance phone calls and it's like it doesn't cost

Speaker 3:

it's not cost yeah, it's not costing me anything.

Speaker 2:

Your cricket phone and she would just immediately she immediately tried to get off the phone as soon as I call up you know that it was that you know, that was my mom, you know, but that's how it always was. You know, and um, that was it my mom, you know, but that's how it always was you know, and um, that was it.

Speaker 3:

My mom was never, never a hugger, never a toucher. She's still here. Yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 2:

And I respect that and I never tried to change her to be that way. No, I mean, that's just the way it was and that's the way I was. I was like, okay.

Speaker 3:

I just made sure I was never going to be that person, that's fine and that's fine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think other people change you. You get away from home and then you meet people or date people or get close to people that are different, and you're saying, wow, this is better. Or you might think it's you don't like it either, or you think it's better and I want to be different, and I want things to be different in my life.

Speaker 3:

Same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right on, so that's cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, that was a good time. Thanks for coming to my she shed.

Speaker 2:

Oh well, thank you for inviting me again. I can't believe that you invited me back for a second taping.

Speaker 3:

We had so much more.

Speaker 2:

I thought it's just the beginning of our relationship, really, oh God, wait till you get to know me.

Speaker 3:

Eventually there's going to be something there that makes your brain snap and you'll be like get out now, how dare you. You'll throw that whole glass of wine in my face. No, first of all, I will never. Never. I'll wait till the glass is empty, but I'm not going to throw the wine, so you break the empty glass over my head.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I'll correct that statement. Yeah, yeah yeah, who are you again Sorry. I'm going to be out of town.

Speaker 3:

Got a little wedding.

Speaker 2:

The sun is in my eyes. I tripped over a rock.

Speaker 1:

There's an elephant in the room. There's an elephant in the room.

Speaker 3:

It's probably a camel or a zebra or something.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, again for having me.

Speaker 3:

I'm so glad you're here I'm so glad I'm here too.

Speaker 2:

Really, it's better than being boring.

Speaker 3:

Not white bread.

Speaker 2:

Not white bread.

Speaker 3:

yeah, it's not wheat, it's not white. No, it's not. It's not white bread. It's not white bread, which is a slang term for not just every day, it's a little different. Get it, I ordered it. Everybody else can too.

Speaker 2:

If they want to, don't read it and fall asleep.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I won't.