The Rambling Gypsy

Flatbeds, Festivals & Family Feels with Bart Crow

The Rambling Gypsy Season 2 Episode 7

On this special episode of The Rambling Gypsy Podcast, Tiff sits down with Bart Crow at Casey Donahew's Boots on the Beach event in Cabo San Lucas. Bart shares his story from the early days driving a flatbed pickup in May Pearl, Texas, to his time in the Army, his eventual return to farming and how a series of job layoffs led him and his wife to Austin, where they built a life filled with music, love, and family. 

Balancing family life with a music career is no easy feat, and Bart offers a heartfelt look into the complexities of shifting between dad mode and musician mode. Tune in to this inspiring conversation that blends humor, heartfelt reflections, and the unique experiences of a devoted family man and passionate artist.

The Rambling Gypsy podcast is a behind-the-scenes look at the lives of real Texans doing real sh*t. We're pulling back the curtains on our daily lives - and you're invited to laugh and learn along with us.

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Speaker 1:

Hey guys, I'm Tiffany Foy. Welcome to the Rambling Gypsy podcast. And today we are doing things just a wee bit different. We are actually in Cabo San Lucas. We are at Boots on the Beach, Casey Donahue's gig.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And this is Bart Crowe, everybody.

Speaker 2:

Hello.

Speaker 1:

And this is our first time to actually meet. Yes, so this is my first real organic interview show video, whatever you want to call this.

Speaker 2:

That's the way I like them to be Nice yes.

Speaker 1:

So usually what I sit around and talk about is a day in the life of my shit show, because that's pretty much what my entire life is is a big, ginormous shit show.

Speaker 1:

I have a ton of animals, I have my hands in a little bit of everything, but yeah, so this is a totally different gig. My business partner down here, he did his podcast yesterday and you know him, steve Trevino yes, renee, captain Evil. So we've been friends for a very long time. Awesome, so we've been friends for a very long time, and so, yeah, so today we're here and let's tell everybody who is Bart Crowe.

Speaker 2:

Where do we start? I don't know, man, that's a big one, just a dumb kid from May Pearl, texas. May Pearl, texas, big old town, huge town.

Speaker 1:

So many people Gangster city yeah. Metropolisropolis um crawling through the wheat fields.

Speaker 2:

Yes, just grew up working for a local farmer named ray campbell and then at 18. Graduated high school, went to the army for three years really and then left um, got discharged out, went to um right back where I started farming again.

Speaker 1:

Farming. What were you farming?

Speaker 2:

We were rolling. I used to go on wheat harvest every year and we'd start in Hillsboro and go all the way to Nakona, Nice, and I did that from the time I was 13 until 18. Because I always tell my kids, especially my 13-year-old, I'm like man. When I was 14, I was driving a flatbed pickup with a 34 foot flatbed trailer and 18 rolls on the back from Nakona to Maypro. No driver's license. No insurance.

Speaker 1:

nothing, Just work to be done. First thing I drove when I was nine years old was a tractor.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so um got out of the army in January of 98, was right back where I started and was like, well, I have a GI bill. So I went to Tarleton for a year. Nice had a fantastic time, rodeoed for the school.

Speaker 1:

Nice.

Speaker 2:

And just kind of was letting my grades slip a little bit Because right out of high school to the Army and then coming back at 21, I was catching up, I was making up for that lost party time and so.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, well, I don't need to piss off this GI Bill, so I'll go home for a summer. And then that turned into three years. And then one of those days of waking up and be like I am right back where I started. So I went back to Tarleton in 02, graduated in 04. Brooke and I started dating in 03. I was playing music in 03. Graduated, bounced around a couple different jobs, had the unfortunate side of getting laid off.

Speaker 2:

Gotcha a couple different jobs, had the unfortunate side of getting laid off like gotcha so I'd like to tell myself I was a good employee, yeah, I didn't get fired well, yeah, and so it's different. When we had that second different feeling, I mean that second layoff in december of 05 we flipped a coin and, uh, we were toying with like because being him just went to la and had a lot of success, right, she wasn't.

Speaker 2:

My wife was in film and we were dating then and we were kind of all you know pretty locked in together and we picked Austin and so I was actually headed to New Braunfels no doubt but once we got to Austin, and then, of course, as soon as we moved to Austin to focus on art, every gig I had was north of Austin and so by the time we get home on Sundays, I'm like the last thing I want to do is drive 45 more minutes, right? So I think I secretly kind of always had an idea Like I'm not leaving your house, yeah, I'm just going to start paying half the bills.

Speaker 2:

You know, and then I tell the story and I hate that she's sitting there because she may remember it a different way, but I may have told the story.

Speaker 1:

She's coming in we to ask some questions.

Speaker 2:

yeah, I've told the story so many times that this is how I remember it like her aunt and mother were down helping decorate the new townhome that right, okay and her aunt just made this off-the-cuff comment. I wasn't even there, like you know. I think it's ridiculous that bart's gonna move 40 minutes down the road, as much as he's gone and pay double rent and this and her mom goes. Yeah, that doesn't make sense and that you never hear that happen.

Speaker 1:

First of all, first of all, his mom goes. You know what?

Speaker 2:

let's bring him in well at the time I mean, but that's awesome, in our defense we were what 24 and 28 okay.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that does make a big difference.

Speaker 2:

You weren't 16 and right, yeah, hiding in the closet it was almost like this cloud of of taboo lifted off her and and we just didn't talk about it, right, I just kind of stuck around, yeah, and then, uh, yeah, now it's 2024 and we've been married just celebrated 17 years of marriage uh last month that's or I guess today it's technically august, so two months ago is it and now we have four kids and we live in south austin.

Speaker 1:

I love that so the cliff notes of my ridiculous. That's so short. I mean, that's like the. I can't wait to hear the full on and then what happened, what really happened?

Speaker 2:

was.

Speaker 1:

So music. Where did I mean? You just didn't were you just sitting around a campfire one day when you were where is it in the family? No, it was in the family. Where did that come from?

Speaker 2:

My grandfather had a band for 60 years. Really and he lived in Lubbock, okay, and you know, just played. He was older gentleman and they, so they played lots of Bob Wills, yeah, and Farron Young Willie Nelson.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Older Willie Nelson. My pawpaw crow was always in music. My father was a lead guitar player.

Speaker 1:

My grandfather was a pawpaw too. We don't hear that so much. That's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Now my dad's a pawpaw to our children.

Speaker 1:

Same deal, same same same.

Speaker 2:

Then my dad was a lead guitar player in a band. They just played top 40s, 80s country music.

Speaker 3:

Back in those days it was.

Speaker 2:

I'm a son of a drywaller, I'm a carpenter son, there you go. And so, uh, it was just him and his buddies and they would play the American legions, the, the VFWs, and street dances and things like that. Just, I would say, you know just a 20, 30 mile radius around.

Speaker 3:

May Pearl.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but they had a pretty good little following in the whole town Like so it'd be like all his kids that ended up going to kindergarten through graduation together. Right, somebody was in the band or best friends with somebody, and so it'd be like this gaggle of kids with one babysitter.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then of course we'd fall asleep and wake up at home the next day, right, and so with that I just always kind of tinkered with guitar a little bit. Never songwriting until I, uh, just always loved music. And growing up in Maypro and we lived five miles out into the country, so when my parents blue collar family, they worked all the time so. I'd stay home with my older sister and my baby brother and we just listened to records and cassette tapes and eight tracks, and so music was always something.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I mean, when I was in kindergarten my sister was in the fifth or sixth grade, yeah, and she sang a Charlie McLean tune and won first place in the talent show. And I sang John Anderson swinging in kindergarten and won sixth place.

Speaker 1:

I sang that in third grade talent show. Yes, look at us just having little things in common.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so music was always something and then, of course, being in the Army during peacetime, a lot of downtime at the barracks and we just my roommate he was my bunkmate in basic training and we're still really good friends. He's a rapper out of St Louis, lives in LA or lives in Reno now, no doubt.

Speaker 2:

And so we had this thing where we would go to Blockbuster Music and order out of the catalog, like we would write down music and I was buying a lot of like a friend of mine had just introduced me to robert or keen, but I was buying like ray wiley hubbard jerry jeff walker all these cds and he was buying like machiavelli and and biggie and all this, yeah, and we had a.

Speaker 2:

I had a six disc changer in our barracks so we put three of his rap records, cds three in my country and just push shuffle. And I actually took Brooke and my family to Reno two years ago where they could meet Rod.

Speaker 3:

And we still just like talk about all that that is so cool To this day.

Speaker 2:

His favorite song is LA Freeway.

Speaker 3:

No doubt.

Speaker 2:

And I'm a big Tupac fan.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, and so we text all the time.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I kept a journal when I was in the army because I was very, very homesick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You don't leave a 300 person town that you're a third generation person in Right and next thing you know you're four states away.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

In a big man's world.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And so when I went back and went to Tarleton I would play. I was like the dude who would play guitar. But I didn't do the party thing, like we're pulling the guitar out to party.

Speaker 1:

Right, right Right.

Speaker 2:

Cause I'm in my own head. I'm still at 40, almost 40. I'll be 48 next month. I'm still in my own head. I don't do that, Even though I miss a lot of opportunity by not doing that, but I think I'm too cool for school, you know.

Speaker 3:

Even even now like y'all never play music.

Speaker 2:

I'm like yeah, because this is how I interpret it. Hey, everybody, stop what you're doing. Yeah, look at me, yeah, listen to me real quick but she's very good.

Speaker 1:

It's totally a different way to look at things, cause I've been. We have property that is across the street from our resort and then our resort is gated, which is in New Braun in LA. Steve and Renee were still in LA and that's how I met them. They came down here and hopped in an in a old school bus and drove down and and pulled into my place. I literally I think I had just gotten the keys and it was an absolute shithole at the time and born and raised in New Braunfels.

Speaker 1:

I, my aunt and uncle, have L and L Humphels. I, my aunt and uncle, have L and L, which is the largest place on the river. They've had it for 50 years, 51 now, and um, I would never, ever would even think about pulling into this place.

Speaker 1:

And then now I own it and, of course, I was revamped and redone, redone the whole place, but that was how I met. I met them. So there's a lot of singer songwriters, there's a lot of things that have been written at our place, because we'll shut the gate and they'll come down there and they'll, and I think it's beautiful yeah, but that's a totally different gig where it's right you guys all sitting around, but there's been many times where it's the one, the one, but yeah, and I'm not saying I've ever really heard it put into that perspective, but that makes perfect sense well, and to quote, to loosely quote brooke, you're the only person that thinks like that.

Speaker 2:

Everybody else is just enjoying it. Other people love to hear this yes it's just, I'm an overthinker, I'm a virgo, I am very much an over 100 percent virgo, but then it's always after the fact.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of, if I have a thing called the gypsy nary and in my gypsy nary we talk about one of the very first episodes, it's kind of, if I have a thing called the gypsy nary and in my gypsy nary we talk about one of the very first episodes, it's a situation and sometimes it turns into a fluctuation and that's when, and it's always at.

Speaker 2:

I'm always, I don't overthink at the right time yeah I do on things like that, where you know and she's told me before she's like you, like you may not call it a gift, but other people that can't do it see it as a gift. They want to hear that. And I'm like I just I don't know, yeah, in my own head, right, and I miss out on a lot of cool opportunities. Yeah, doing that, and I don't mean to it, just it's naturally just who I am.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know after the fact, always be like hey me, even if they're wrong, right and not that she does, it's just because I'll I'll have that minimal regret like damn I should have you should have, should have, would have jammed in and played, yeah, yeah but I also enjoy music, so if someone else does it right I like to sit there and absorb right, because I'm like I always hear me yeah I know what songs exactly and I can hear my songs all the time I like to hear other people too, right, so I don't know I appreciated wade saying last night when it that's what's different about this festival here, and I do have some questions for you on on that.

Speaker 1:

I'd like to hear your aspect on this festival versus different. But it was really cool to hear him because we've known each other for a long time and to have him say you know, it's really cool to sit back and just enjoy because you guys don't get to really hang and see each other all at the same time Because you're doing your gig here and he's doing his there, and y'all are all over the place. But at this particular festival it's really cool because y'all do get to sit and actually enjoy each other's music.

Speaker 1:

And it's like an old school kind of yeah, Old stuff and what have you guys been up to and we haven't had time to visit, and so it's really cool for him to point that out and put that into perspective, because we, as outsiders and as big fans, we don't think about you guys not being able to hang out all the time and talk about your up and coming and what's really going on.

Speaker 2:

I think it's like everybody feels like how's the fam? Everybody goes in this bubble.

Speaker 1:

And then I don't live in New Braunfels.

Speaker 2:

I live in Austin and I don't have in new bronfels. I live in austin, right, and I don't have a musician close to me. I mean text wise, yes, but like I don't have a neighbor, I have a buddy, right, and I have four children and I um, I can I take the hat off when I?

Speaker 2:

get home, yep, so like I'm not a musician, right, I'm a dad. I'm a taxi driver, yes, and I'm a dad, yeah, and to a, not to a fault from a parental standpoint, but from an artistic standpoint, right to a fault, because I'll shut it down, like if I noticed a couple weeks ago we had three weeks between band gigs and I didn't even get my guitar out of the deal.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was just like because I'm in dad mode and and I think that's a good thing, parentally and spiritually. But then I'm like, oh my God, I haven't written a song in six months, oh my God. And then I'm not going to call any names, but somebody will remind me well, you haven't played your guitar in three weeks. Yeah, how do you think you're just going to pop a song out? Yeah, and she's totally right out. Yeah, and she's totally right. And uh, then I'll have weeks like last week the big boys were all at uh camp, out in uh camp, grady spruce and possum possum kingdom.

Speaker 2:

So we just had the little guy but he went to vacation bible school, so I had three hours every day and ended up writing four songs nice huh, it does work when you, when you actually so what age are the kiddos? Uh 13. The twins are 10 and 4 love that all boys so my head.

Speaker 1:

My well, I have three boys and with all three of my boys came a football team or a baseball team or big, big in sports, and all of those boys are the boys. With the boys, I have more of their friends that are literally considered my children than than my own right. One of the funniest stories was my oldest is 30 and just had my first grandbaby and I literally have been begging and begging and begging, and it is, oh my gosh, good for you.

Speaker 1:

I knew I needed this in my life, but I didn't know that I needed her as bad as I did, and it is literally.

Speaker 2:

Oh, and you got a her too.

Speaker 1:

We don't have hers.

Speaker 2:

I told Gaten I was like what are you doing, standing on your head Like I don't know what to do with this? What?

Speaker 1:

do I do with this? She's going to be mean as hell, right? Yes?

Speaker 2:

I mean mean Not spoiled rotten at all either.

Speaker 1:

Not going to tell you that I already have a truck and a flatbed trailer. I went ahead and added the gooseneck that's being it's Dodge front. Yeah, as you should. Well, she's got to put her cow in something. I mean, her dad's just not going to let her walk into that. I mean, her mom definitely is not going to, but she knows she can bring the cow to my house. But what were we talking about? We were talking, oh, the kiddos, just kids.

Speaker 1:

So the girl that is my co-host, that is on my show the majority of the time, is Kelly and is Kelly and I call her Kel, kel Kelly Garnier, and she delivered River. Is that one of yours? Uh-huh, in Dell Hospital, no shit. So she was very. That's why she was in there, wow.

Speaker 2:

So crazy enough. She texted me. She was calling out every code in the damn rainbow.

Speaker 1:

When River popped out, she's the she's I got goosebumps because, let me tell, you. I'm telling you, let me tell you we do cry and we cuss on my podcast. I got the E and the.

Speaker 1:

Kleenex deals. Yeah, but, um, yeah, so she she's. She's my biggest cheerleader, my biggest fan, she's my rock, she's my everything. And, um, she actually delivered Drake, which is my grandbaby. We couldn't be in there. And, um, my daughter-in-law's tiny, tiny, tiny like this one here and yeah, so she was was.

Speaker 1:

We had some drama and Kel was in there back and forth through the whole thing and and she told Gage, my oldest, said you know, if you need me, I'm right here.

Speaker 1:

And she was hugging Riley and she said, you know if, if you need me, I'm right here. And she was hugging Riley and she said, you know if, if you don't see me, that's a good thing, but if you see me, I got this and so, and we talked about it on my show a week or two ago and and, uh, she ended up, she was in there and and she said, you know, she was hysterical and she said, in the 30 years that I've been doing this, she said it is completely different when your loved ones are on the table. And she said I was like I just I went into panic mode and then I stopped and I had to talk to myself and just zone in and just, you know, really realize. You know I've got to do what I've got to do. But she said it's just insane how you. It is different. But she said I mean she is the person and this morning when she texts me's, she's pumping me up. You know how are you doing and tell me everything is going on, you can do this.

Speaker 1:

You can, you know, giving me my my cheer speech this morning and and I she asked me who I was going to have on the show today. And I told her you. And she said, well, let me tell you this story. And I was like holy pickles, I cannot wait to tell them.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, because it was. Yeah. I will yeah because river, river's still making a lot of splashes every day.

Speaker 1:

But he, it was tough so that was the first baby he.

Speaker 2:

Uh. Well, parsons came out picture perfect birth pop well yeah, I'm sorry, I probably shouldn't say pop jump up here, bro.

Speaker 3:

Okay, yes, come on, come on, yes we had talent, so had one, and then I got pregnant with twins. Yeah, and so River was our twin. That it just didn't go well Right Was first, and then River ended up having a short umbilical cord. And no one knew and he didn't, he wouldn't come out, so he got stuck in the first town.

Speaker 1:

That's what happened with.

Speaker 3:

It was like they were doing everything they could.

Speaker 2:

They were, and he like I said, they were code red code blue like the rainbow, yep and even the doctor. When another physician finally got there, she like just deadpan was like where have you been?

Speaker 3:

yeah, I've been calling you like it was a very obviously very intense, but now everything's see, everything right trying to be a coach to her.

Speaker 1:

I'm like this is cool, everybody's yes, and that's what she was kind of saying with gauge, because gauge is like you know and gauges that my child, that is the calm, the um, he's the protector, he's. Nothing is going to get past him to hurt anyone that he loves. I mean he is and he's saving everything. And he knows Cal very well. I mean Kel's my lifeline, you know, and she, she was trying to that's when she said I was like fuck, I mean I'm trying not to show this because she doesn't want Riley's bawling hysterically the whole time she had been since prior to and yeah, and so it's really ironic how this all came to fruition.

Speaker 3:

I was like making this whole thing even more special and I could not wait to tell you guys I'm so glad that you knew her, but also that was probably worse, because when they saw her come in they knew something was serious. I just knew all and then that's right.

Speaker 1:

And so she had to literally go gage, I need you, here's what's gonna happen. Boom, she grabbed drake and then when drake came out, she was just as white as could be. She had sucked up all the ickies and the thing and kel's like jumped in and did her part and did what she needed to do and saved everything, saved the day, saved my grandbaby, yes, yes. And so when she was telling me this morning, I was like, oh, my goodness, it's just, it's just, um, wow, small world, right, it is. I mean, and this was not even. Y'all weren't even in our hometown, this was at Dell.

Speaker 3:

That was at Dell.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So, right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know that. So Parsons came out textbook but his lungs were underdeveloped so he had to go to NICU. Right River comes out still Pops him back to life. He's just chilling with us within two hours just in the room.

Speaker 2:

Like all right, he's good. Even though he came out, he was like completely limp, nothing was happening, and she was at the nursery nursing and the doctor who had delivered town. So we'd kind of become a little bit of friends, right acquaintances, and uh, I was in the room by myself and uh, dr nash came in and she goes, and I just said, hey, thank you, that was so beautiful. And she looked at me and she started welling up. She goes, I lost him. She's like I didn't have him in all my career. That's never happened. God was in that room and god had something special for that young man, because I didn't have him and I could not have faced you and brooke right. And she goes. I don't know how he's alive. And I'm just sitting like what and like, oh, y'all, look like the nCAR pit team, y'all threw in there.

Speaker 1:

Everything was good, and y'all want to know why. Kel. Kel is my rock star. There it is Everybody. I talk about it all the time and that girl is more ways than one. I mean you, you this, I mean she sends me daily inspiration things when we're not together. And yeah and yeah wasn't gonna cry on this show.

Speaker 3:

no, I was like I wasn't okay. So now let's get out the guitar and let's do some forget the kumbaya

Speaker 1:

or whatever, yeah good lord they actually.

Speaker 3:

We found out later that during birth, because he was black and blue yeah and then for a while he didn't really want anybody to hold him, and at six this kid's got nine lives. Thank, thank goodness yeah six weeks old he got rsv and when it was really bad and we almost lost him again. Right and when they were in the hospital they were like, oh, did you know he had a broken clavicle. No, they didn't do that. It wasn't that passive.

Speaker 2:

They came in, they x-rayed him and CPS comes in to this room and they're like we need to talk to you guys has a broken clavicle. And I'm like, whoa, hold on, yeah, I'm out. Uh, stuck in the birth canal, she was trying to break his collarbone. She told me that and she's like I couldn't get it broken. Yeah, and I'm like, and they're like, okay, and then they went check the papers and I'm like yeah, relax, relax, wrong house yeah, yeah four houses down.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I don't know. I promise you you're on the wrong side of the county, bro river was here, like where we were playing music in front of the pool. Right, right right.

Speaker 2:

It'd be like hey, bart Brooke River's on the damn roof.

Speaker 3:

Can you please get him out?

Speaker 2:

He's about to cannonball into the pool. That's.

Speaker 1:

River. Ironically, kel's youngest Rowan is that child.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Literally, if he is alone more than one minute, he is either tied someone together. He can't tie his shoes, but he can. He could have every cord in here in a matter of two seconds, this Airstream would be tied up, locked in. That is River Van Coleman, mace would be tied and not even know that he's tied.

Speaker 2:

Take two steps and yes, that is River Van Coleman to 18.

Speaker 3:

Yes. Yes, yep, yeah so they're special humans, so he's a special human, so maybe they.

Speaker 1:

How old is he? How old are the twins? Okay, so Rowan's seven, yeah, but he's something. He goes into my house and tells all my little things. He makes everything to his voice, and so I'll say Alexa, can you? And she'll go. I'm sorry, I don't recognize your voice and I'm like damn it, Rowan.

Speaker 2:

He doesn't do it to my phone because I changed my passcode a lot, but he'll get on hers, oh, or he'll. I was cooking the other day and he goes hey dad, and he's talking to me but he's doing this, but I'm not paying attention. Right Opening my phone with the face recognition.

Speaker 3:

Yep, that's right, Little shithead. Right before we left he changed both my parents. My dad goes River, yeah, and I was like I cannot answer my phone and I was like that's him.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I can tell every single step that he's been in my house and they come over a lot on Sundays because we're at the river at my resort and just working my tail off 22 hours a day. We're staying, and so Sundays is kind of like my chill day, if I don't have to go and if we don't have a big weekend because I run the bar down there. And so he calls my pool in the backyard the frog pond, and he has since he was little, and so they come over to the frog pond and Riley, their oldest, which is 14, he loves to cook and I love to cook. Kel can't boil water. God love her.

Speaker 2:

But we all have our gifts.

Speaker 1:

like we said, she's saving our babies and I'm cooking for all the babies Because I can't cook for one, but I can cook for 400. Like that's normal for me and but Riley loves to cook and so he'll come over and well, he had stayed home. Kel left and she said I'm going to go pick up Riley. So Rowan stayed with me and he is driving her bat shit Crazy Like she's like get off me, I just want to just relax and chill. And he's the here and there and he's into this. Know, he's got mosquito deal and he's rewired my tv and you know. And then he, she leaves and it it's completely opposite where we have redone, like he changed my faucets for me and I helped me do this and helped me do that. And then we went inside and we had and I said, kelly, it's just so he's, it's so different when you're gone because he hangs out with me. And we had and I said, kelly, it's just so he's, it's so different when you're gone because he hangs out with me and we have the best time.

Speaker 1:

He is the biggest, hardest child. I mean, his heart is just huge, always wanting to take care of me. They call me, everybody calls me gypsy and that's all. My businesses have gypsy and I've been gypsy for the longest time, but that's what they all all the little ones, call me and says, yeah, and gypsy. What are we doing to do next? And what are we gonna do? Is here, was river, a lot like that, where he just needs like, does he need a job?

Speaker 2:

oh, my god, that's what he's like. My big thing to all the boys are like don't ask what we're doing next while we're still completing this fun, this task right yeah or we leave the skate park yeah, what are we gonna do next?

Speaker 1:

yeah, we haven't finished, not even cranked yet, right yeah, yeah, where are we going dad?

Speaker 3:

turn on your hot spot yeah, I'm like I don't have my seat belt on seriously pump the brakes yeah yeah but to answer your question, he is very much like that you give him a task or get him one-on-one uh-huh and it is like people are like we just love him yes, yes he also just figured out how to set up somebody's tv, and there'd be stuff that I don't even know how to do.

Speaker 1:

Seriously, he figures out how to do it all, yeah, within minutes.

Speaker 2:

He's also a typical boy because he'd be a shithead to his mama. But he knows he doesn't See that doesn't fly with dad.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So we get different personalities too. Then, with us having four boys, you know they always say three's a crowd. If you take one out of the mix, anyone, they're all different. Or if you take one of the boys and go run an errand, they're completely a different human being. That it's like who is this person?

Speaker 1:

and how far apart are they?

Speaker 2:

is this kid? Uh?

Speaker 1:

13, 10 and 4 okay, yeah, yeah, but it doesn't matter which one you which one you pick.

Speaker 2:

They're just towns is usually pretty. Even kill the 13 year old, but the 10 year olds, if you separate the twins, right then they are. They're like they have twin personality, yeah. They have individual personality, right. They have in the group personality, yeah. And then if again, you got them by yourself, it's just like they're totally different gig.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all mine are four and a half years apart, so I it it really I didn't ever have that type of a yes yeah, what we see now is the oldest 13 and the youngest four.

Speaker 2:

That nine year difference. They're like like towns is poets protector really. Period end of story yeah like I can get on the poet because he's being a little turd. And then I hear towns come here, bub.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, come here tell, tell, daddy do to you so mean it's okay, I got you, I'm gonna get you, yeah huh. Yeah, you can run, but you can't hide. Yeah, I can throw a chunk of. Yeah, it's one thing I pitched for nine years in baseball, softball and yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right on yeah keep on running.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to hit you. I'm going to hit you and if it don't hurt, I'm going to do it again. Yeah, yep, I'm going to catch you, catch you, catch you. But so this festival music thing, because I do have what? Um, you travel all over, play, um. When we were talking about not taking the guitar out with the kids, do the kids ever ask you, hey dad?

Speaker 2:

do you want to? Um? Only if I'm cooking, only if.

Speaker 3:

I'm doing something else.

Speaker 2:

That's the only time they want to play catch. That's the only time I want to play instruments piano or guitar if I'm in the middle of doing something else, yeah, and so then, depending upon what piano or guitar if I'm in the middle of doing something else?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so then, depending upon what that something else is, I mean, I'm still learning how to be a dad, so I have to be like, are you? Yeah, seriously, you know what yes Need to do this or.

Speaker 1:

I love that Again it's mostly when cooking. And I'm like, what do you want me to do? Yeah, and then she'll fire and be like I'll do it with you. And I'm like, yeah, now it's like perfect, let me put one on your chalkboard right here, one big mark, yeah and so, but the boys, the boys are all into music um, that was my guitar.

Speaker 2:

I love that uh, rivers, kind of loosey goosey. Parson's place piano and poets starting to tinker with the piano a little bit so um, long ways from efficient, but enough where, like, I've had them on stage with me. Yeah, we did a cold play song when I played at saxon pub last year nice and so ed parsons playing piano, towns was playing guitar, I was strumming guitar and then river was singing with us.

Speaker 1:

That is so cool, but did you just love that?

Speaker 3:

watching that, oh I was fucking red oh, I can imagine, yes, and um, but I was kind of bummed because my oldest has the most beautiful voice, like he can sing like a bird, he does theater stuff, but he won't sing on stage with his dad.

Speaker 2:

It's like he won't he just it's well, he's 13, so it's that embarrassment phase.

Speaker 1:

It is my nephew went through a stage like that. He's also a musician, and actually both of them and um, his little I mean this child is. We don't know why Tyler came out. We'd have no cause it does not run in our family whatsoever, and but Tyler came out. We built him his first stage when he was four years old and we had little VIP passes we made in the neighborhood and was a really cool deal.

Speaker 1:

I call him Baby Chet. He's not a baby anymore and he's still. It is what it is. He'll always be my Baby Chet. This kid can slay the guitar and so with Tyler he was very. He would never. I remember he one of his first gigs real gigs was at Tavern on the Green in New Braunfels. I don't know if you remember where the tavern used to be okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, played plenty of shows there he would lay his guitar down flat in his lap and he would have whatever he was going to play, would be stuck in the whatever that thing he's called, and and he would look down and he would play his guitar like this, because he would not, but he is. His voice is ridiculous, but chet, chet, don't give a damn.

Speaker 2:

And what we're gonna sing is and we're gonna rock on I think townsie, I think townsies deals like they've been in theater and the two twins and towns, they've all been leads in their child group.

Speaker 2:

It's a big theater group, yeah, in austin, and um, I think they have that thing where you've got other people on stage or there's so much other going on right that whatever solos they have, it's kind of like quick right and they have the comfort of other people. But that and half that towns didn't really pursue the arts, at least not yet. And so now, at 13, shoving him out there that you have all that embarrassment.

Speaker 2:

And he thought like if you, he was younger wouldn't give a shit, right, let's just go for it. And then you, and then if you're doing that so long, you don't know any different, right? So I think that's a little bit of that adolescence embarrassment. Don't want to embarrass myself, kind of shy. Well, and dad's also about to be in eighth grade and he plays baseball, he plays football, he plays track, he plays basketball. So like, his social status is sports.

Speaker 1:

So you just hang out on the couch all the time with all this.

Speaker 2:

But when he's home with us.

Speaker 1:

I don't think you missed one sport.

Speaker 2:

Oh everything, yeah, oh my God, when fall baseball's going on? Oh, so it's baseball from September to December.

Speaker 1:

And then you have fall ball, but he has football at the same time.

Speaker 2:

Yep Straight into basketball, mm-hmm. And then you go to spring baseball. But there's track too.

Speaker 1:

So five days a week and then in baseball.

Speaker 2:

And then that they're, because they're four and a half years apart. So then this one was moving on to the bigger things, and then this one's coming out and so yeah and that's just towns, and the twins ones in jujitsu. They're both in theater sometimes. Uh, you know, they're playing recreational baseball. Right now the one of the twins river is going to play football, this with pop warner, and like it's just like.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, holy shit man you know, you know, I do know, I do know when you literally have to tag, team each other and be like hey, and then he's on the road.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's why this year it's so much. It seems to be like Randy Josh, Casey Casey the three of us have had these separate conversations about. This is the first year where each of us, respectively to our careers, have slowed way down Right, and where each of us, respectively to our careers, have slowed way down Right and it's the slowest year I've ever had.

Speaker 1:

Really.

Speaker 2:

And for that reason yeah. It's like there's so much going on. Right, I need to be relevant in the music scene. Right, and want to keep making music and so, beyond words, grateful and pinch myself all the time that I get to do this. But I'm a dad.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

My dad missed out on a lot of shit because we were so poor and he wanted to make sure no one else was poor. And he has a lot of regrets and I'm like man, I'm not going to be that guy. But then, at the same time, when you got to go, you got to go, right, yeah, so I think we're all kind of blessed in our generation that we're able to.

Speaker 1:

Some of us got that and it was instilled into us as we parent. But so many people didn't and they're still like I've just got to keep plugging away and, like you said, we are blessed enough to be able to do and go.

Speaker 2:

And then us talking. I feel like all three of those conversations had ended with like, but on paper. You know the financial side of that we have to live right.

Speaker 1:

It's not all about money, but we have.

Speaker 2:

This is a job right shit on paper it might look better than it did the years we did 200 shows.

Speaker 1:

If you were still in the in the um lounge yesterday when steve was talking and then I and I loved what he said was when he because I've known garrett since he in the womb talking about having Garrett and um, which is their oldest he's eight. And it was really kind of cool how Steve said I am able to come home and stay home during the week where I am a dad, but in Garrett's eyes he's like in Delilah, the little he's like. Why are you leaving again, dad? Why are you leaving? And just how it just breaks his heart.

Speaker 1:

And he said when I garrett's old enough to start to understand and garrett's very I mean, they've always talked to him like an adult and so when you can you know, but he's so, he's very in tune. And the fact that he said when you do put it on paper and you do realize how much time I am home versus how much time I do get to I am gone, when a lot of parents are eight to five and they're gone, literally they're. They're still in the same town, but they're gone all day long.

Speaker 2:

So when you turn it, around and you think about it that way, which there were so many things in that podcast yesterday that I was just like standing over there, I loved it and I'm like I got nothing to say because everything they said with Randy, everything he said Casey like Casey saying going and getting uh zane yeah, and taking him to lunch every day towns texas every day, but I'm a rule follower mama's not yeah, and I'm like son we're so much alike.

Speaker 2:

We're not supposed to check you out, but I'll go do it and I'll make sure he understands I'm like you know, a lot of these kids don't get to do this no, my father ever. There's been times I'll go to eat lunch with the twins and my dad will just randomly call.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's a party. What are you doing? So I hadn't grabbed some Chick-fil-A, heading to meet the twins for lunch. First words Well shit, I've never got to do that See, I was always on the job site.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm sitting here. This is making me think. Well, dad, I don't know that I ever had lunch with a parent. No we never, no know, I mean, I never even really thought about that.

Speaker 2:

yeah, that was, her dad was in construction, and her mother was a school teacher. And things are just different, and even sundown in june we uh took our camper and we traveled for 29 days and I made sure to tell the boys like, hey, you know, I'm telling her that I'm, you know, being very mother henning, watching our finances like being smart and trying not to let the kids know or hear about that.

Speaker 3:

But I was trying to make sure that.

Speaker 2:

Excuse me that the boys knew how fortunate we are, that like, yeah, we might not have a boat, we might not have a swimming pool in the backyard, but look what we're getting to do. You know, uncle in doesn't get to do this, aunt Callie doesn't get to do this and callie doesn't get to do this nano and pawpaw, don't get to do this gg and pops like there's a beauty and I forget about that sometimes, yeah, because of financial strain.

Speaker 2:

As a father, as the patriarch of the family, you know there's some worries, yes, some fears, and then when you're doing art josh and I were talking about it yesterday it's like shit, man, you, you need to focus on your audience, but who's my audience? I'm be 48 a lot of audiences 25 I don't know what you want to hear about, right? And then I can't write songs like that. So then you got all these struggles and all this mental just yaya going on in your head instead of just just do, just do just do.

Speaker 3:

Bart wade kind of touched on that last night when he sang the song the Merle Haggard song when he was like call this my best attempt at being Merle Haggard.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

And he made a comment that, like this is the stuff we don't always show, this vulnerable side. Exactly, and the pain of it and at the end of it I was like, okay, that was my favorite song ever.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

And it was so beautiful and so poignant. It was also so insightful. But also I feel like so many musicians can relate to that, and not even just musicians, just artists and humans at a certain point in time, where it's like you're trying to do these things for a certain reason, but you're also dealing with a lot of demons behind the closed door.

Speaker 2:

Right, and if you're like me, I tell her I say I get myself in these vices Cause I'll reach out to a producer, someone else that's in music Right, and kind of ask for direction, and they'll give me that direction and in the moment it's like wow, that was a good conversation.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And then I'm leave like I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to not just be me.

Speaker 1:

I had a friend of mine. I'm leaning on a lot right. I can, so relate to that.

Speaker 2:

You don't need to write another love song. They're all out there. You've done that. You need to focus on this part of your life. I'm like cool, and I even told her. I was like that was one of the best conversations I've had. Hell yeah, I was like a big brother giving me and then I go to pen and paper. I'm like fuck, I don't know how to do that Right variable in my head to try to be something that's not just natural.

Speaker 1:

It sounds like there's a lot like scary in here yeah.

Speaker 2:

There's some real weird shit going on in here. Yeah, you have no idea. Yeah, the shit I can make complex. Yeah, it doesn't have to be, I am Even this friend of mine that I'll leave his name, uh, because a lot of us know him and we do records with him, but he was, it's like it doesn't have to be that hard.

Speaker 3:

I'm like I don't know how hard it's not to be.

Speaker 2:

Because if it starts being easy, then I'm like then it must not be good, Right, yeah? So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I was sewing curtains for the bus I was telling you guys about earlier at my resort and I had these random patterns and I went to Nick, my assistant, and I said, hey, what do you think about this? And she was like um, I don't, I don't see, I don't get anything. And I was like, yes, that's perfect. And so now when I ask her anything, and she's like I said she was like what are you even talking about? And this girl goes everywhere with me and she had to hold the fort down because she, because she had to the way she'd be right here.

Speaker 1:

But I said, you know if? If you would have said, oh, I can totally. If if you would have said, oh, I can totally see this, I would have thrown it all I've been oh shit, I gotta go I'm going back, I'm going back I'm gonna go sit down in my corner, I'm gonna think about what I'm doing right now, because that is so.

Speaker 1:

Now when I say anything, she's like I nope, I have no clue, and I'm like, she's like, but then then I'll be done. And she's like like I totally saw that. I was like no, you didn't.

Speaker 3:

Did you really, did you really see it?

Speaker 1:

And then, if I think she's being sincere, she knows I will just shred it. I'm like nope, forget it. If you even remotely had any clue what I was going to do.

Speaker 2:

I have a friend of mine that used to tell me you need to just say fuck it, Just roll with there.

Speaker 1:

I'm getting better about it. I really am getting a lot better about it.

Speaker 2:

T-Bay used to say you're the guy that wants to be invited to the party and not go, and he goes.

Speaker 1:

And I mean that with your music, that is so true, I mean that with other festivals and things like that, I get my feelings hurt.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know he's like and then you show up and you just bitch about it the whole time under your breath.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I pull up and I go. Did she know that she put that right there?

Speaker 2:

Hey, we put a. That's going to bother me. We played a festival. It needs to go like this A few years ago.

Speaker 1:

It's going to look so much better.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we played a festival a few years ago that I hadn't been a part of for a while. And I had to beg for passes for my wife and my child.

Speaker 1:

And then you're backstage and there's a ton of people who don't play music that have no idea what they're doing back there, but we figured out what it was.

Speaker 2:

I was also reading Catcher in the Rye and I was just in this woe is me, fuck the world kind of attitude and we left and we actually had a really good time. That was a lot of fun, but in the moment I was just like you mean like some mary poppins or something. Yeah, I was like hayden cawthorne, just sitting there just like look at these bastards right, yeah, let me see your wristband yeah, yeah yeah, who are you?

Speaker 1:

yeah, that's crazy, so I love. This is my first time at this festival, which has been to Me too Really.

Speaker 2:

This is my inaugural trip to Boots on the Beach.

Speaker 1:

This is so cool.

Speaker 2:

I've told Casey and Melinda multiple times because I sometimes can get sappy, casey's not the sappiest guy, but I made sure they heard it from me, like just from the moment we got our flights. Yes, sure they heard it from me, like just from the moment we got our flights. Yes, the way that they made sure every artist was on good booking I mean they put us all in first class, like that just says like a tip of the hat, right, we're glad you're here, right.

Speaker 2:

And then this beautiful place and then they. You know we got to go to an artist party at a house and just the way that they treat like I have such a new and I've known Casey 20 years.

Speaker 3:

We used to flip flop open for me, I'd open for him Things are a little better for him than me now.

Speaker 2:

But we've always been friends.

Speaker 1:

I was getting him water and things. It was good.

Speaker 2:

We've always been friends and then to come here and he's kind of the boss.

Speaker 1:

Well, melinda's the boss. We know what you meant. But it's okay, she's sitting right here too.

Speaker 2:

We are working for them and just the way that, like, this is the only festival and I've played fantastic festivals.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. But it's usually come go, come go come go, get in, get out, be here at this time, get your shit, get out.

Speaker 2:

Play your show, show. Yeah, and just the hospitality and the kindness and just uh. You know, yes, a lot of it is is uh quirks, not quirks, uh perks, perks, thank you, that's usually not my gig. That's what killed us that they, that they have a gypsy because I got my own vocabulary yeah perks that they've given, but it's like damn feels good to be appreciated right, it's not cattle, so well thought through yes, so well executed I agree, a million percent, and they don't have to do that.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

It could have been, you know, coach Airfare. It could have been a shuttle bus from the airport. Right, we would have still been happy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But that they've taken the time to go above and beyond and be like hey, to treat our guests the way we wish every festival was treated. And I've told them both multiple times Like that is pretty, it's damn incredible, it is.

Speaker 3:

It's not just for the artists, but for the guests.

Speaker 2:

I feel the same.

Speaker 3:

I feel like everything is really thought through. There's something for people to do all the time.

Speaker 2:

And everybody, you can put the same energy for everybody and to make sure we're all intermingling. Yes, that it's not like a. It's not like a, um, like a a typical stage festival where, hey, we, we got this festival and we whoever's putting it on, we tried to pick the best bands we could, but you're not going to get to hang out with them, you're not going to get to meet them, right, and I think that what she just said like the cornhole tournament, the uh karaoke thing, the, the concerts, the artists going out and visiting I love that you guys get to be artists and fans at the same time here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's really cool, it is really, really cool and it's really cool being able to see you guys being able to do that, because I've been in a bunch of festivals and I've been that person backstage and I know a bunch of them. I mean, it's our hometown, it's dreams in my backyard and when it's festivals, like that.

Speaker 2:

Then you take a band, like me being a dad. Hey, we play at four, we're done by five.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, shit, we're on the road.

Speaker 2:

We're gone.

Speaker 1:

By 530,. We're heading home, I mean it's boom, boom, boom, yeah, you've got. And so it's like, well, we'll go do our part. Boom, let's go. We got places to be. Yes, and I've been very, very impressive and I, I feel the same as you guys. I mean it's really, really cool to be able to see and the and the people who are here.

Speaker 2:

I love it too because, like it took a lot for them to spend hard earned money to be here, so everyone wants to be here. So like not before. Last, after I played, and then, uh, after Casey and Tyler finished, I stood there and I was telling her when we went to the room. I'm like man, I just got some of the nicest people come up and say some of the nicest things to me that I'm going to take that energy home and write some damn songs and not have this imposter syndrome and this.

Speaker 2:

this isn't good enough. People said some of the kindest things to me.

Speaker 1:

That's so cool. I can't wait for fans to hear that when they watch the show, to know that those words inspire you guys to write songs when people will be like, hey, please don't stop what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

It's like you have no idea how many times I've contemplated that.

Speaker 1:

See, and I feel that hardcore and it's that way with with my resort. You know we're only open three months out of the year, but I'm very hands-on with that place.

Speaker 3:

And I'm there.

Speaker 1:

When I'm not there on a weekend, my guests there I mean they become my family and they're there. They plan a year in advance. They come every single year 'll come. They book a year ahead of time. I had one guy that just booked two years ahead of time. I've never done that and he was like please, and that's awesome. It's what keeps, because the riffraff and the not. I mean, this is what I deal with at home every single weekend.

Speaker 3:

I was like lord, is he wearing that?

Speaker 1:

outfit. I am really. I mean, this is just a salty version of the guad, is what I'm at right now. Now, with you guys being here, and it's just kind of it's because I kept telling Steve. I said, no, I'm not doing this, I'm not, I'm not going to go down there. You guys, you're in my hometown, we do this is what we do.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And two days prior to he said, get your ass on a fucking plane. And I was like, oh, don't yell at me.

Speaker 2:

First of all, now I have to.

Speaker 1:

God, all right, fine, Let me talk to Renee Get her on the phone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, fine, I'll go, okay, fine, and so then, boom, here I am and man, it has been. It's been a totally different vibe. It's been a totally different aspect of watching people hang out and see and you being able to grab that and you being able to grab that. And I'm thinking what's different here versus what I see at home all the time is people do spend their hard-earned money and they save and they're doing this a year in advance, which they do the same thing at my place but they catch fucking stupid when they get off I-10.

Speaker 1:

And I'm the one that's got a grown man by his neck and I'm like.

Speaker 2:

So you planned a year in advance to come down here and whoop your cousin's ass.

Speaker 1:

This is what you planned a year in advance to come down here and whoop your cousin's ass. This is what you planned on doing On my turf, on my home that I have organized and I have scraped the rocks.

Speaker 2:

This is the peace palace. Yes, what are?

Speaker 1:

you doing.

Speaker 2:

They're like I'm so sorry, alcohol's a hell of a drug. Now, you're just not coming out of your face.

Speaker 1:

What the fuck are you doing? I'm not letting you wipe this on my shirt. You're 40 some odd years old.

Speaker 2:

Alcohol's a hell of a drug.

Speaker 1:

Think about your freaking choices. And I was just telling the kids the other day. I said I haven't seen one. I haven't had to break up one fight. And I'm so I haven't seen it either, and I've been the first one that jumped in there and goes God damn it.

Speaker 2:

I think KCD would probably escort them to the front porch.

Speaker 1:

He'd probably it when I see it.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it's a full-on thing.

Speaker 1:

I was jumped in the middle of 30 of them two weekends ago and I was like you are going to go sit over here? And this dude was one of them, was four times my size. I mean, looked like freaking Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 2:

Well, because most people, I think. And I was like well, I mean I did kick him in the balls first, so I had to bring him down and get down here so you can listen to the words that are coming out of my mouth. Well, I think most people have goodness in them and they're fucking alcohol man.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, if you can't handle it, don't fucking drink it. Seriously, me and Kelly had one episode where we talk about it. We talk about the shit that happens on the resort girl bite fingers off of the damn bride. I mean it's a whole thing.

Speaker 2:

And have you ever met my sister? Well she is kind of a different.

Speaker 1:

sorry, tammy she is from one of them, little hometowns in Texas, I'm not going to mention any names, but east side of the Texas.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just I, you know, and even getting to hear like you were saying not being like I've heard 10 Casey songs that I have never heard this week, and Randy and Wade and Mike and Josh and yeah, we all know each other but we don't get to hear that. So that's been inspiring to hear like, oh, that's a cool song. It might give me an idea to pull from their art to go be inspired this way and then meeting the fans and everybody's so damn nice. Yeah, and it's like that to me, for the virgo brain in me is like encouragement, like okay you still?

Speaker 1:

still got a little something you like quit, they still love me out there. I mean I get to see, yeah, I sit on the balcony.

Speaker 2:

I'm like god. Thank you like sometimes I guess sometimes I need the pad on the back right, yeah you know, I wish I was one of those guys like I don't care what anybody thinks no, I give a shit.

Speaker 1:

No, I get. I am one of those that I absolutely, and Josh and I were talking to you about, like you know from like you, building your resort and opening to the public.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we take something that does not exist on this entire planet. Right, it's in this universe. It does not exist, right, it comes from our effed up brains. Yeah, and especially, I'll throw myself under the bus, especially not being a the greatest guitar player ever. So now I got to come up with a melody, a hook. These lines tell a story, a believable story, if not a true story, and that's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 2:

And then you throw it out there yeah and when people love it, it is like you could conquer the world, right. But when they don't, and I'm just like steve, yeah, I could have 50 beautiful messages and someone else be like blah, blah, blah and I'm like, oh same oh my god like joe rogan always says, he posts and and I'm like I can't I want to.

Speaker 1:

yeah, I got a message yesterday on something that somebody else said it had nothing to do with me, whatever, and literally I was like is that what?

Speaker 2:

Who are they talking about? Yeah, I'm the same, but what I'll do? I didn't wear that.

Speaker 1:

I did this one time you warned me, my hair was in doo-doo balls, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was in a clinic, my testosterone clinic. I'm so glad you clarified that she's sitting right here right when the pandemic started. Yeah, and they put a sign up. Please wear a mask and some dude was just giving just wrecking the secretary and she was 17. I finally went up there. I'm like hey, buddy come on pump your fucking brakes. Yes, wear the mask or don't wear the mask, but this young girl, she's my niece's age, right, this isn't cool. And then, of course, he started berating me, but I'm like fuck you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I'm not. Yeah, don't make me take my mask off. And so, yeah, when things started, when things started opening up.

Speaker 2:

I just made a post one time like hey, if somebody asks you to wear it, don't give these young children. Just everybody's trying, exactly we're all trying to get back and dude. I got fucking eat up but one guy killed him with kindness. He was a shit talker and I went back and then he kept calling me a libtard and I'm like no man, it's not that, just like you know I've got a niece that's trying to work.

Speaker 1:

It is yeah and yeah next thing you know she's just doing her job and she's 17 and she has one, and she has, and those are first of all let's talk about that for a minute and work ethic is and then, 15 exchanges later, he goes.

Speaker 2:

yeah, I guess I overreacted, man, I can't wait to see you again when you come to. Oklahoma and I'm like dude, you didn't know that is every client at my resort.

Speaker 1:

They hate me so much. And then they get there and they're like I'm so sorry, I emailed that to you and I was like, first of all, that's my daughter-in-law that you thought was talking to me, because everybody says Tiffany, and In fact, cancel everything, don't even put your socks in your suit.

Speaker 2:

I try to kill with kindness and then, when they're like I'm sorry, I'm like, oh, don't be sorry, you said what you wanted to say. Own it, it was stupid, stand by it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was very, very hateful and rude and I'm in therapy still, but we're going to get past that, we're going to change and change, that's right I don't wear the same clothes I wore 15 years ago.

Speaker 2:

I think different, like it's okay. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay to wake up this morning and think this way and meet somebody and be like I never thought about that right and think this way yeah, believe me a lot of thought process has been different. Coming from may pearl texas and marrying this lovely lady, yeah so, um, just everybody be cool. I know just love. I know scripture says love is the greatest thing it is uh, what is it? And the greatest of these is love.

Speaker 2:

So if you're not balancing your life through that, yeah no, you're wrong, we can still get like casey and I casey's like ellis county and johnson county. You know they butt up together. That's why we're on. We can still get like Casey and I Casey's like Ellis County and Johnson County. You know they butt up together. I'm like that's why we were like this baby. That's why we are like we are.

Speaker 1:

One of my best friends I've known for a very long time has been in the music business for 30 years and just got off the road for the first time in 30 years and we've known each other and his family is literally like you were talking about with with the little one in new Braunfels and how that's kind of your family, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So it's kind of that way with me and Brooks and, um, I, I'm the man of the house, I'm the one with the drills and the tools and the building and doing all the things, and, um, he is a Milwaukee guy and I'm a DeWalt girl, I'm a DeWalt guy.

Speaker 1:

I'm with you, I freaking love you. But yeah, and so we have these randomly. He'll send me a screenshot. It'll be him watching some hot rod thing and he'll go do you see that tool? And I'll be like, yeah, right, and then you just had this conversation literally there's like two seconds into the thing, the camera moves this way and I was like, ah, do you see what is a other guy over there or whatever he was building.

Speaker 1:

I was like, do you see all that? See what is the other guy over there or whatever he was building. I was like, do you see all that yellow? Yeah, did you. Because, that's my people right there yeah we just go. And then he sent me this confrontation deal with like a meme or whatever the hell those things are called, and it's with the DeWalt and the Milwaukee.

Speaker 3:

I was like, okay, stop Is that what we're going to do today.

Speaker 1:

I literally had like just landed, now you're going to get me all fired up. Yeah. I'm going to go ask the guys that work here what kind of tools are you using back here?

Speaker 2:

In 2021, we bought a camper and traveled for six months and I put in this system in the back of my truck called a deck system.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. My kids have a custom shop. And if you open it up, it's just yellow and black. Send me a screenshot of that if you don't mind, please.

Speaker 2:

I have my favorite tool because a friend of mine said every day before y'all pull that camper, check your tires.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And I have a DeWalt air compressor Same Battery powered, same. So every night I have four battery packs Yep and they're on the counter.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I charge all four.

Speaker 2:

I have a DeWalt battery powered fan. So when we we're boondocking, I've got that fan right now and it takes.

Speaker 1:

Yes, next year we're bringing it takes two batteries.

Speaker 2:

Let me know, I'll bring mine, or you can bring yours or whatever yes, I've got the impact wrench, the drill, the air compressor is my favorite and that fan epic, the little radio, and then I have my little flashlight that I, oh, I've got the gooseneck flashlight, I got the spotlight same, uh, I've got the vacuum cleaner I've got the tripod thing. I've got the handheld vacuum cleaner for inside the camper.

Speaker 1:

It's so good. Yes, it makes me happy. Did y'all hear that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, D-Walt, it's two of us right here, yeah.

Speaker 3:

A little hookup, seriously A little hookup.

Speaker 1:

Your buddy Brooks is not going to want to listen to this. Oh was, his whole back of his truck is yellow and black. Kel goes picking all the time and get Goodwills and all the garaging and what have you, they're probably brushing shoulders. She brought me a shirt the other day. It was a DeWalt.

Speaker 1:

Somebody had a DeWalt t-shirt she's like walked in, it was because she's got the passcode. She comes and goes out of the house all the time. It's sitting on the back of the counter and Nick my house all the time sitting on the back of the counter and nick, my assistant, comes in and she goes. Is this?

Speaker 3:

never mind did kel get this for you and I was like yes it's so cool.

Speaker 1:

She's like only you would get so excited about some old dude's freaking dewalt t-shirt and I was like, do you feel that it's heavy cotton?

Speaker 2:

it's a really nice, yes, they care, they do they do, they're so yes, oh, I'll lose one um drill tip. Be like I. I got to go get the 36 piece For real.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

They send me the sale things or I just go through. I'm a Home Depot person, I'm the one that sits on the floor. They all think I work there. I'm a boots on whatever and I can tell everybody what bay. Aisle 11. A little to the left.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes they shove the other boxes behind. There it is and uh, but I will do. I will do a flyby right through the I'm looking which I'll got something new right. Look, who hadn't seen this before. I don't know what it does, but I probably should use it for something yeah, yes yep, I'll take two, just in case I lose the first one. Yeah, yeah as you should, I know yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you taking away so much from this festival, especially after this talk.

Speaker 2:

That's just as a whole another this is fantastic and we can't wait to come to your house.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you have to.

Speaker 3:

You guys are not that far away a lot.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, yeah, thank you well, we will do a frog pond day. We will, we will, and it's okay because we're very sensitive, but we will tell the whole world exactly where they can stick it at the same time. But we, we will. Why we have tears rolling down?

Speaker 2:

our face. Yeah, yeah, no, we will, yeah, exactly don't say that yeah but no, we definitely will.

Speaker 1:

We are going to um, we're going to make it happen, yeah and I can't.

Speaker 2:

We're going to come see, you're going to be like crows.

Speaker 1:

Please leave see those two kids destroy something together. We're going to leave them at the resort we're going to do it either at the top of where my acreage is, with all my animals. I don't know if your boys love animals but there's not too many that I don't have. I've got from camels to zebras, to monkeys to you name it.

Speaker 2:

Don't listen to her.

Speaker 1:

It's a good time. Yeah, it's a really good time.

Speaker 2:

We would own a zoo if we didn't live in downtown Austin. I do, yeah, we're just supposed to be friends.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Rowan has been chasing goats since he came out of the womb and I mean he can get in there and snatch them by the leg Like, hey, Gypsy, I got this one. I was like it looks so cute with legs. Could you please put it down, rowan, that's so good, but don't. And they'll come out there and he looks like Woody and he's got his little gun and his holster and his rope.

Speaker 1:

He's going in there and doesn't give a damn. He's going to catch my cow and I'm like, don't don't catch that one before we hang with you. It does, kel says stretch and hydrate. You got to stretch and hydrate, but I'm trying. I'm too old for this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, love it, yeah, so, so y'all thank you so much, thank you very much it was an absolute pleasure, and it was so good to finally get to meet you guys face-to-face and I've seen you in passing and I've always been a huge fan.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, Keep doing what you do. Keep doing what you do.

Speaker 3:

Right back at you.

Speaker 2:

Yes, please do, oh, yeah, we're going to make some stories.

Speaker 1:

Yes ma'am Make and we will see you all around this place. Hey, thanks to Casey and Linda.

Speaker 2:

Yes, very much so.

Speaker 1:

It's on the beach Cabo is phenomenal.

Speaker 2:

And DeWalt.

Speaker 1:

Everything here is and DeWalt for putting this Airstream together. Yes, we also have a white trash party. We have to head to. That's right. We all have to go get that White trash.

Speaker 2:

We're about to get real of bed and get dressed like I think we've got that roll out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, throw your boots on no costumes needed no, no, it's, it's, some things just come natural. This festival is literally yeah, point, there you go, there you go. Well, thanks, thank you guys, thanks honey, thanks, appreciate it let's, let's, let's do what we do you too? You too safe travels home, and I guess I'll catch you on the flip side.